So, what's the current status of everything?

[ClockworkCoder]

I really love Lovecraft's or Poe's use of English, but wouldn't recommend them as a learning aid. However, I think anything that grabs your interest and pulls you back again and again is good practice.

It may sound silly, but reading out loud really helps too.

 

[matzesu]

I use to read even on the "Waiting Snake" on the Super Marked Counter, so reading out loud isnt eveythime a good idea..

And my Speaking English isnt that bad, just my Writing English..

I can remember to make a Sells Speak whit a US Army Man some yeahrs ago

 

[oskda]

I really love Lovecraft's or Poe's use of English, but wouldn't recommend them as a learning aid. However, I think anything that grabs your interest and pulls you back again and again is good practice.

Totally agree

It may sound silly, but reading out loud really helps too.

The problem with English is that you can't read out loud from a text if you don't know that language enough (spoken language): as you know English is written in a way and spoken in other, i.e.: if you see a new written word, you don't know how you must pronounce it. For each word you must learn how it is written (easy) and how it is pronounced (not easy, as you'd need to understand and mimic complex phonetic symbols in a dictionary or listening good sources).

In other languages, for example Spanish, when you see a written word you know exactly how it must be pronounced without doubt, even if you never saw that word before. For me this is the worst part of English: no good correlation between written words and phonemes, so you need to memorize written+pronunciation for each word.

 

[oskda]

I wonder if that would work or if the language would just (d)evolve like all natural languages do with slang and such causing the language to lose it's advantages.

As it is a constructed language, definition can be made by a official standard, and only official organization can evolve it. It is the opposite from natural languages. On other side who learn it, would do it with official standards.

One of the problem with natural languages is that they evolve differently in different places and, over time they got different languages. For example Romance languages derived from a common language and they got very differently over time. In a constructed language defined/evovled only by a int' standard organization and with modern communicate capabilities (global connected village) I don't see the problem natural languages face.

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Yeah those are (most likely, haven't read them myself) rather old English which can be much more difficult to get into

That is another problem: English changed too much over centuries.

A Spanish speaker can get original Don Quixote (Don Quijote) from 1605 and he can read and understand it without problem. But if you do the same with old English text it can be difficult or near impossible to understand even for native speakers.

 

[matzesu]

So, what's the current status of everything?

My Status is fine, im now watching a bit „the walking death“ on Netflix, and play a bit Witcher 3 on Switch Lite..
I am Happy that there are only a couple of weeks left this year, then counting the inventory, enjoy my Winter Vacations, and hope there will be exiting news about the Pyra in January

 

[gpsqueeek]

Sometimes Death takes a bike, too. See the documentary "Good Omens" for more details (Pratchett again, yey !)

 

[matzesu]

Its the new Terry Pratchett Mashup Show on Netflix, Sam Vimes, DEATH, and Rincewind gotten teleport to a Postapocalyptic America, where they have to fight against Zombies and Bad English..

No, sadly its just the Show whit the EX Cop Rick, his anoying Son Caaaarrrrlll !!!, the coolest Samurai Swort Swinging Black Lady in a Zombie Show Michonne, and others..

But its teaches you somethimes how to not to behave in a Zombie Apocalypse..


I wonder if i be done whit this Show when the Pyra arives,

By the Way:

Will Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, and Disney + work on the Pyra??

 

[elw3]

My English went understandable after i got addicted to IRC.
Reading or hearing wont help you the slightest with learning a language, you need to actually use it for communication.

matzesu schwing deinen Hintern ins IRC Land!

 

[cerno]

As it is a constructed language, definition can be made by a official standard, and only official organization can evolve it. It is the opposite from natural languages. On other side who learn it, would do it with official standards.

A language which only governmental or similar organizations can regulate? Clearly a red flag from an adoption perspective. It is a too tempting way into really ugly totalitarian regime.

One of the problem with natural languages is that they evolve differently in different places and, over time they got different languages. For example Romance languages derived from a common language and they got very differently over time. In a constructed language defined/evovled only by a int' standard organization and with modern communicate capabilities (global connected village) I don't see the problem natural languages face.

Unless there is a brutal totalitarian force behind enforcing the regulations and controlled development of the language, the natural evolution can still happen, regardless of the regulation. My native language is supposed to be governed by some kind of "scientific" institute, yet the institute basically codifies what the people do with the language (or, more precisely, how speak the people in the country's capital).

Enforcing a regulations on people's native language is annoyance. An attempt to enforce a construed language foreign to the native language might be viewed by many as a reason to active (eventually even military) resistance.

 

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

A language which only governmental or similar organizations can regulate? Clearly a red flag from an adoption perspective. It is a too tempting way into really ugly totalitarian regime.

A government regulated language could be ungood.

 

[pimaster]

But I WILL make sure every prototype preorder receives his unit before christmas!

I really hope the people that get their prototypes take some glorious pictures with huge smiles.

 

[erico]

With silence like this coming from him, one is to expect that he is working a LOT, let´s just hang around a bit longer.

 

[pmprog]

Well, there's been activity on the Kernel mailing list again looking into audio and booting from eMMC, so stuff is happening...

 

[ClockworkCoder]

This is traditionally about the worst/busiest times for (small) businesses. I imagine he's working his socks off, but I trust he will indeed do everything possible to prioritize getting those first units out asap.

I just hope Grench (and co) will be able to update us as and when they get their prototypes

 

[matzesu]

Wasnt it so, that whe waiting for the Cases to be ready in January, and then Massproduktion and Shipping??,
So EvilDragon cant now make anything to hurry up the Pyra at this point??

 

[ClockworkCoder]

Wasnt it so, that whe waiting for the Cases to be ready in January, and then Massproduktion and Shipping??,
So EvilDragon cant now make anything to hurry up the Pyra at this point??

Indeed. He's just working on the prototypes atm.

 

[matzesu]

But the Protoypes are also important: , Prototyphe Preorderers can help whit the development of the Software, as they have the Hardware to test, so the Software in the MP Units are more improved,

And a Protoyphe Preeorderer can make lots of Pictures and Videos, and spread the word to others, so more Pyras can be selled ..

 

[ClockworkCoder]

But the Protoypes are also important

Did anyone say they aren't important?

 

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

Did anyone say they aren't important?

No, but it has been said that they are important.

 

[Grench]

I just hope Grench (and co) will be able to update us as and when they get their prototypes

No updates to be had. The last status I saw was publicly posted. ED said that there were minor bits on the prototype mainboards that had to be altered. The work had been done to the units that went out to devs but had not been done to any of the boards with the US 4G modems on them - and apparently all of us prototype pre-pre orders are US 4G requests. I understand that the de-soldering/movement/replacement/soldering of components on this scale is excruciating detailed time consuming work. So, I'm trying to just sit back and be patient.