It's all white!

[oskda]

...and set your house on fire. There's been enough cases of cheap chargers and cables catching fire due to not being capable of properly handling so much Amperage.

Simply don't use cheap chargers, nor cheap or inadequate cables.

I use this on work: AUKEY Quick Charge 3.0 43,5W with 3 USB ports and thick cable: it has 1 Quick Charge 3.0 (3,6 V - 6,5 V 3 A, 6,5 V - 9 V 2 A, 9 V - 12 V 1,5 A) and 2 USB ports capable of 2.4A each. I can charge my QC phone and 2 other devices. I will can charge Pyra on it.

No problem (I have been using it since like a year). Of course, don't use high watt devices with weak or low quality cables.

Even you can buy spare high load cables from this brand.
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Its possible that future phones will need 12V to charge to reduce the current through the cable.

We are in future yet

Actually we have Quick Charge phones and chargers where they can use differents voltages up to 20V (from only 3.2V to 20V, although max voltage on mine is 12 V and I haven't seen one with 20V) negotiating beeywen them ( if phone and charge support it). This is contrary to old standard USB fixed at 5V.

New USB-C also support differents voltages.

As you I wouldn't fit my home outlets with fixed USB slots, because you are right: norms in TIC changes. In a years we would use mostly USB-C cables, so old big USB connectors will be out of date.
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[EvilDragon]

You'd have to move all signals (USB, etc.) over the flex between top and lower case, which is just crazy (and maybe not even possible because USB, SATA, etc. need matched impedance for the source/traces/sink).

... aaaand I'm not sure a display loves being heated to 120°C
[doublepost=1500029048,1500028743][/doublepost]And a quick update:
The keymat samples have arrived here. Haven't tested them in unit yet, but a first test on a flat table indicates that those are finished and ready for mass production as well.

 

[Mr_Loon]

Indeed, though it makes more sense to flip that around.

Agreed I should have clarified I meant throttling to lower temperature when the CPU is under heavy load rather than when the system is sitting idle / under low load

 

[AVahne]

... aaaand I'm not sure a display loves being heated to 120°C
[doublepost=1500029048,1500028743][/doublepost]And a quick update:
The keymat samples have arrived here. Haven't tested them in unit yet, but a first test on a flat table indicates that those are finished and ready for mass production as well.

I've bought a JXD S5800 years ago for pretty cheap because the screen was messed up from the previous owner leaving it inside a very hot car. So yeah, you're right about that.

 

[slaeshjag]

(A friends nokia n900 had visible spots on the display located right above some key chips that got quite hot)

 

[Letalis Sonus]

Sounds nice. Do you have a name/part number/price/source?

Only the company's announcement: https://www.sepa-europe.com/en/news/new-sepa-micro-fans

 

[EvilDragon]

Only the company's announcement: https://www.sepa-europe.com/en/news/new-sepa-micro-fans

Yay, a german company, nice!
The other one I have is pretty loud, so that one seems neat

 

[kuru]

Crazy how small fans can get - and 1.6 dB(A) - wow.

 

[gotwake424]

This is demoralizing ...
The SoC will be 5 years old. Hope they arent end of life by then ...

Yay, a german company, nice!
The other one I have is pretty loud, so that one seems neat

See if you can get a sample from them ED

 

[Black Sliver]

Only the company's announcement: https://www.sepa-europe.com/en/news/new-sepa-micro-fans

Only distributor charges ~10€ excl. tax for MF10A03A (10mm x 10mm) and MF15B05 (15mm x 15mm) :/

The other one I have is pretty loud, so that one seems neat

Even when throttled? Is it at least (a lot) cheaper than the other one?

 

[matzesu]

I would like to buy a pretty good USB Charger from the Dragonbox Store whit my Pyra,
Because I use my big Multi USB Charger already for IPhone, Apple Watch and Headphones ,
I didn't want to over head this whit the Pyra..
My other Charger came from the IPhone, and whe all know that the Apple Charger isn't that Powerfull (about 1 A )
The Pyra isn't the only Item I want to buy on the day, it's ready to ship, I also want the 8bitdo Adapter for the Mini NES..

 

[rygD]

Sounds nice. Do you have a name/part number/price/source?

I was going to ask @EvilDragon that same info for the one in his hand.

Oh, and that picture should be the new default user image, because "Pyra fan".

 

[error]

I'm mostly concerned about losing the Pyra adapter, or losing track of which adapter it is. I have so many indistinguishable AC adapters; I don't know what half of them go to. With USB cables at least they're mostly interchangeable.

Can we get the Pyra logo on the adapter? So when it inevitably ends up in a big box of power adapters in my next move, I can at least remember which one it is.

 

[ible]

@error the pyra charger will be some micro-usb (with the extra weird piece attached, presumably). so it's standard usb...

 

[jeeks]

the pyra charger will be some micro-usb (with the extra weird piece attached, presumably). so it's standard usb...

... and that weird piece will sometimes stick to the pyra, not the charger, and you'll frantically search your place for half an hour because you think it fell off and rolled under some furniture

 

[Lightkey]

SIMD (neon) and GPU is far worse than CPU. The RPi and (most) atom boards, for example, can run at 100% CPU with the stock cooling as long as you don't use neon/sse/avx/... or the GPU.

Well, I thought I was already cautious by adding "current", so don't know why you brought up the Raspberry Pi but apparently I also need to add "viable" to limit it to any cooling that would actually fit in the Pyra.

 

[ible]

@jeeks well, it's permanently attached to the usb charger. i'm not sure what it's called, but i guess micro usb 3.0??

 

[jeeks]

@ible whoops, i thought you were referencing that charger attachment thingy the pandora has i should double check my assumptions when it's late and i'm tired

 

[Letalis Sonus]

The other one I have is pretty loud, so that one seems neat

FWIW: It was the first google image search result when searching for "micro fan", maybe you have more luck searching for other products with that search term.

 

[Black Sliver]

Well, I thought I was already cautious by adding "current", so don't know why you brought up the Raspberry Pi but apparently I also need to add "viable" to limit it to any cooling that would actually fit in the Pyra.

Because its one of the few you can "hack" and touch. The power budget of a single ARM core stayed the same; it's a few companies that squeeze way to many cores into the chip, or overclock it (without a proper cooling solution), that screw their power design.
No idea what you have, but my current 4.5" phone with 4x1.21GHz A53 does NOT throttle at 400% Load, without direct sunlight, when GPU is at 0%

Edit: giving a crazy clock*cores value and throttling without giving a typical "design average" is just bad power design. Please compare to better design choices like Intel's turbo or Intel's Core M.