Saber
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Sorry Shenmue(and Klumpen), it is possible. ED will find a way to make it work.
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slaeshjag
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No. ED didn't say he'll find a way to make it work.
ED said they're investigating potential ways to make it work.
We might get 6 buttons, or we might get 4.
ED said they're investigating potential ways to make it work.
We might get 6 buttons, or we might get 4.
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God Ginrai
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The more you insist that this is a bad idea, the more I will insist that it's not any different than learning buttons in emulators.
And yet here you are arguing. First of all, EvilDragon never said that he can do an 8000 battery either. And there's no reason for EvilDragon not to choose one with a higher capacity if it doesn't change the form factor of the device. Because of that, it's highly likely that it can't be done.
And second, your accusations about my ego are getting uglier and uglier. God Ginrai is a character from Transformers: Masterforce. He's the combined form of Super Ginrai and God Bomber. Maybe if you actually did some research for once, you wouldn't have made a mistake like that.
Alright, maybe you did read the thread, but you certainly didn't read it close enough. I suggested tilting the layout so that the cross pattern had the horizontal line of the cross parallel with the bottom of the device because the Cross faction was antsy even that their cross was not at the right angle. The tilt had absolutely nothing to do with solving the space problem.
For reference, here is the post by WizardStan that led me to suggesting the tilt:
Maybe you have an abnormally long thumb?
Why N and O specifically?
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WizardStan
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'cause they're in the middle. M and N is more middle but are also more likely to be confused, and 'O' has a certain "this is a button" feel to it. Maybe O and P? Just something around that general area of the alphabet maybe. I'm not seriously pushing for it, just throwing out suggestions.
O and P (and Q and W) are a bad idea for action button labels imo, because those keyboard keys are sometimes used in Pandora games and emulators when extra buttons are needed.
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WizardStan
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Too true. Scratch that idea.
Maybe I've been looking at my own proposal for too long, but purely aesthetically speaking, according to my tastes,
Δ
Π Ω
Χ
(perhaps with a Chi that can be distinguished from a Latin X) looks better/cleaner than
Y
A B
X
I like the basic shape of those Greek letters; they're more like simple geometric figures than like actual letters. They somehow feel very appropriate for game buttons.
Δ
Π Ω
Χ
(perhaps with a Chi that can be distinguished from a Latin X) looks better/cleaner than
Y
A B
X
I like the basic shape of those Greek letters; they're more like simple geometric figures than like actual letters. They somehow feel very appropriate for game buttons.
God Ginrai
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I disagree. I believe that's simply a matter of the font you're viewing each in.
You talk about Geometric Shapes being appropriate for game buttons. But honestly, I never did like the fact that the Playstation used shapes. I'm used to it now, sure. But still not sold on it.
Also, if you were to choose based off of aesthetics, then we should just use some hiragana. The flow of those characters is much more aesthetically pleasing than that of Latin or Greek characters.
-God Ginrai
You talk about Geometric Shapes being appropriate for game buttons. But honestly, I never did like the fact that the Playstation used shapes. I'm used to it now, sure. But still not sold on it.
Also, if you were to choose based off of aesthetics, then we should just use some hiragana. The flow of those characters is much more aesthetically pleasing than that of Latin or Greek characters.
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Show us your hiragana proposal please!
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@ God Ginrai: but but Pyra is Greek you can't chose non-greek letters
I agree, and Latin letters looks so commonplace that they looks vulgar.
I like that font: http://howmanyarethere.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/greek-alphabet-image-v5-resize1.jpg
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Exophase
Nothing good will ever come of Exophase.
Nobody giving my old suggestion time of day again, but I'm going to put it here anyway
γ
α β
χ
I'd like a more stylized gamma and chi though, more distinct from the Latin Y and X. For the other two letters I'm okay with whatever, probably two of the more common and identifiable letters would be preferable, like delta and pi.
I like this because it lets you refer to them by the Pandora names without it being confusing what you're talking about (and good for Pandora compatibility), but also lets you use distinct characters that are easily identifiable as separate from the keyboard. Having both random Greek symbols along with the original Latin letters works but it feels cramped and clashing to me.
The claim about it being confusing if someone tells you to press a button in an emulated game seems really odd to me. I'd find it very unnatural to think they're talking about the native machine's button instead of the emulated one, especially since most emulators allow you to remap controls.
γ
α β
χ
I'd like a more stylized gamma and chi though, more distinct from the Latin Y and X. For the other two letters I'm okay with whatever, probably two of the more common and identifiable letters would be preferable, like delta and pi.
I like this because it lets you refer to them by the Pandora names without it being confusing what you're talking about (and good for Pandora compatibility), but also lets you use distinct characters that are easily identifiable as separate from the keyboard. Having both random Greek symbols along with the original Latin letters works but it feels cramped and clashing to me.
The claim about it being confusing if someone tells you to press a button in an emulated game seems really odd to me. I'd find it very unnatural to think they're talking about the native machine's button instead of the emulated one, especially since most emulators allow you to remap controls.
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Saber
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No, I don't have talon thumbs or huge manly hands. :lol:
It doesn't matter though on who thinks they have the answer as we all have the same goal in mind. We'll see if we can be heard.
Which is why I came up with this:
1. Face buttons x, y, z, and c are all smaller than normal size A and B here, which are both at the same degree and postition as they are on the Pandora(even if the pic doesn't seem to show this).
2. Button x is a half step(meaning a measurement equal to half a regular size Pandora face button) up from A vertically and a half step(roughly) to the left of where A is on the Pandora.
3. Button y and z are each centered on the same locale of where A and Y on the Pandora are usually give or take needed mm distance between them.
4. Button c is a half step up from where the Y button is found on the Pandora and also a half step to the left above where button B is on the Pandora.
Here's a pic of the Pandora for deciphering what I've explained above. Hope it makes some sort of sense. :mellow:
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God Ginrai
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Alright, I'll take a look at it tonight.
It wouldn't be 4, it would be 6.
Also, Exophase: For what it's worth, I think your Greek suggestion makes more sense than the other ones... I still don't like using Greek, tho'.
EDIT: Saber, can't you just use CODE tags so that we can easily modify your suggestions to show you how ours fit?
-God Ginrai
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bzar
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Consider this meta-discussion. In this post I'm not saying what you wrote now or in the other cases is right or wrong in my opinion.
Please always back up assertions like this with a rationale. I've seen you doing comments like this on many threads and many times found myself wondering why you said what you did. It would be easier to agree or disagree with you if you added some basis on which your opinion lies upon. Just adding judgemental commentary without a rationale is not a constructive line of conversation and only causes further polarization and frustration. Try following your comments with a "because" or "since" in your head and find the root cause for your opinion. Then post enough so people understand why you feel as you do.
Thank you, have fun and please take this as the constructive criticism it's meant to be and not condescending nagging like it may sound to some
God Ginrai
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If you quote this post, you'll see an example. Since your image is just an image of ASCII text, you can just lay out the ASCII text in code tags. When I quote you, I would be able to copy your code tags to have something to modify.
Example:
Code:
Z
Y C
X B
A
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