A few Colors and Packages (with a poll!)

[linx]

@EvilDragon How long will you be in Greece? Only Monday to Tuesday? If it will be convenient for me I could come up to Saloniki to FormAction trying to make them be faster while maintining high quality standards. After all it's different when you're a native speaker. But mostly I'd like to see a Pyra prototype running

Regarding the holiday closing in August. Most "large" companies close for 2-4 weeks during August in Greece, since it's impractical to grant leaves to employees at different times for a large period so that the production line won't be disrupted. That is why most of those companies close for maintenance and for holidays during that season which is when most people want to take their summer leave to visit the seas/islands. It matches the summer closing of schools and a Virgin Mary celebration too so it all adds together. Most of the times this is the norm but it's not always like that. It all depends on the kind of business and the communication between the workforce.

 

[EvilDragon]

Yes, I'll only be there on Monday and Tuesday. Having a native speaker there would certainly help as well. I've got one translator with me, but you know a lot better what the Pyra is about, so I wouldn't have any problem with that.

Additionally, you can of course try out the prototype

 

[ekianjo]

If i sit in MC Donalds, or something, and surve the Web whit my Shiny New Pyra, whit Iluminatet Backlogo, then hopefully somewhone will ask if this is the new apple device,

More likely to happen: People will laugh at you and your fake-Apple-like device and assume it's a chinese rip-off or something.
And I dont want to act like a moving ad. I'm not paid for it.

 

[ible]

i can see what you mean with the rip-off stuff, but on the other hand, without the logo, it will look like a chinese rip-off of an ugly plastic brick.

i personally like the logo, and how it's been simplified a bit.

(this is, of course, speaking entirely subjectively...)

[edit] oh, and you can swap out the logo if you want, to something you are paid to advertise

 

[sulu]

If it will be convenient for me I could come up to Saloniki to FormAction trying to make them be faster while maintining high quality standards.

Bring a camera!

 

[Wrath Of Khan]

The pyra logo is fine- imo its advertising that imbues a logo with meaning be it positive or negative. In theory it means nothing and is open to interpretation.
Without any such associations the pyra logo simply differentiates the device in a sea of devices.
The Pandora also had a logo; it just wasn't as pronounced or visible.

 

[mecksg1]

More likely to happen: People will laugh at you and your fake-Apple-like device and assume it's a chinese rip-off or something.
And I dont want to act like a moving ad. I'm not paid for it.

If they think it looks like damn crapple logo they are a bunch of idiots

 

[Majin Wamu]

At first I wasn't really enjoying the colors you received, but after watching the video, I am actually pretty pleased with the way they look. The grey one looks fine as is (except for the issues specified in the video). It is still not my first choice, but I will wait until the other colors come in. I am very excited for the Pyra mass production. The device looks beautiful, also more like the Pandora than I first realized.

 

[vcoleiro1]

I think the logo looks good. The only concern I had with the logo wasn't the look, but rather the complexity and cost it added to the manufacturing process. But then again , it's a small amount compared to the overall Pyra price, so whatever.

 

[rygD]

If they think it looks like damn crapple logo they are a bunch of idiots

If they think it looks like an Apple product they are even bigger idiots.

The grey one looks fine as is

I am fine with it if that is the grey we get, but I would like it a lot more if it were a little lighter or darker. Lighter would seem like a bit of a throwback color, and darker is just personal preference (since you were away for a bit check out the color threads and see the dark grey many of us really like...you might understand where we are coming from).

I think the logo looks good. The only concern I had with the logo wasn't the look, but rather the complexity and cost it added to the manufacturing process. But then again , it's a small amount compared to the overall Pyra price, so whatever.

I would be fine if he just put a couple of rectangles there to serve as indicators to cut costs, but I know he wanted an illuminated logo, possibly to show off flickering flames.

 

[ible]

maybe ED can offer blank logos plates (just the metal part, without the fire cut into it), not glued in, so that users can cut their own logo and glue it in.

of course, the price for such customry would not be zero

 

[comradekingu]

Its not a very new idea
Someone with their own style and ideas is a lot more interesting than a consumer. Encouraging conversation is possible in lieu of a brand.

 

[tarator]

Here a "rendering" of the pyra with an alternative Logo. This can be achieved without cutting a new logo-plate. The new logo can simply be glued on the existing one. In fact - the intrinsic molecule structure of the design will make your Pyra last forever.
Without doubt everybody who is thinking this is an apple-fake can count his days left in this universe.

 

[pyrat]

Edit: i Hadn't read tarantor post while writing this, of course.

I don't like brand logos in general. This one is nice as a shape. But It looks slightly out of place. I am very bad with aethethics and design. If someone is more knowledgerable or intuitive, is the size right ? isn't it too big for such a small device ? Is there some golden ratio or some kind of formula on what size it should be ? I'm not sure what is under it, maybe it cannot be smaller, at most be made of the same plastic as the case and hold something smaller inside. It also looks too different from the device, as if didn't belong to it but had been attached as an afterthought or like I can't aford a metallic enclosure so I stick a metallic plate in a plastic enclosure (not that I want a Faraday cage in the way, just talking about the look). I don't mean it looks bad by the manual attachment process, but the size and texture. Plastic and aluminium look too different. Maybe if the plate was plastic, or the aluminium was just a rivet and not a plate, or the plate was metacrilate or sanded metacrilate (is that possible?) with an image printed underneath I don't know...

But I think it is very irrelevant. It is not ugly. It is much more important to me to have wifi without blobs (is wifi on the SOC or properly isolated?) or etnaviv working or hotswapable batteries, or some method to power down unused memory (no, I don't think it's possible) than having or not having a logo or being able to customize it.

I'm curious about how it is attached. Just glue ? Someone was thinking on using it for case mods, but it does not look like it can hold anything, can it ? Could be cool to replace it with a small eink tag with a serial interface (through the led cables) so that it can show the logo, or tell the time or the currently playing song, or some kind of low power UI for the M4s. But the benefit does not justify the effort. And it is late for changes, even to allow customizations.

 

[bzar]

I think the logo plate actually looked better in the video than in the pictures, same as the case in general. As the case and the plate are made of different materials they may look very different in still images depending on the lighting, but once you see them moving together I guess you form some kind of composite visual image of them, which makes them fit better. I only today remebered to watch the video, and until that I too thought the plate was somehow off. Now I think if the case and plate are just a bit darker it'll actually look great.

 

[pyrat]

You may be right. I reviewed teh video again and is not that bad. IT doesn't matter. It is good enough as is. Anything else is more important.

Just had an idea seeing a car with those lights that you don't see the shape until it lights up. Maybe the plate could be made to look as much as the case as possible, but
transparent, or at least with a translucid part in the center. So that with leds off the logo is not visible or is just an outline or a engraving, or you only see the ondulate vertical bar,
and when LEDs light up they shine through forming the logo.
With varible PWM it could be lit as throbbing or palpitating, or slower as there is some misterious flame inside.

But I don't know how to get that one directional translucid effect, that looks like the case when off and translucid when lit up.

And again, it's not worth spending time on, not even mine writing this, in fact.

 

[comradekingu]

The size is about exactly what one had in mind turning in designs for it. It matters for some preceived 3D-effects.

For extra bonus points, the rounding of the logo could match that of the case. But its one of those more quirky than its worth things.
You end up getting into trouble over something very minute.

 

[Grench]

I still think that the logo and device in general would look better if the metal plate were black to match the shoulder button and nub colors.

 

[rygD]

If only there was a black metal so it wouldn't rub off.

 

[Klumpen]

If only there was a black metal so it wouldn't rub off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluing_(steel)