rygD
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So the options are to have a grainy display, or a figerprint magnet mirror. That sucks.
One week with the Pyra
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No, there is anti-fingerprint coating as well.
In fact, I also have a matte touchscreen on some device which is a fingerprint magnet
levi
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A backlit screen is unlikely to show up fingerprints - the contrast is generally too small and overwhelmed by the brightness. Also, you tend to look at it straight on, while the visibility of fingerprints on glossy surfaces is often due to the different refractive index of your fingerprint grease versus the clean plastic surface (or versus the air surrounding the surface if it doesn't have a clear protective layer), so requires light to come in an quite a small angle and be viewed by your eyes at a similarly oblique angle. Straight on, it becomes almost invisible even on unlit plain plastic.
I'm using matte screen protector for my xperia z ultra (1080p at 6.4'') and don't find such problems. There is some graininess but it's not that visible. Maybe I could make some photos later.
There might be some problems with the way matte layer was made for this touchscreen or maybe touchscreen itself so it's worth investigating in my opinion.
But if you're going antiglare route please consider using some anti reflective coating to increase outdoor/sunlight usability.
fusion_power
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Hm, this could explain why there are almost no Laptops with a matte Touchscreen out there but alot with matte non-touch-screen displays. Smart Phones are basicly all glossy, makes sense.
However, I don't want a glossy screen at all, what exactly do you mean with "non-matte touchscreen with some AntiGlare"?
levi
Still fresh, damnit!
A glossy screen might actually be better for outdoor visibility, because at least then you can angle is such that it's not reflecting the sun at you. Wouldn't help so much in a lightly cloudy day where the whole sky becomes a light box, but to counter that you either need a brighter screen, or a transflexive screen which takes in incident light and reflects it back out through the colour filters - matter versus glossy doesn't make much difference there.
The only downside with glossy screens is that they tend to reflect brightly lit objects clearly, so you can see the image of anything up against the window reflected if it's angled to show them, not just the original light source.
The only downside with glossy screens is that they tend to reflect brightly lit objects clearly, so you can see the image of anything up against the window reflected if it's angled to show them, not just the original light source.
glare screen?? Awww, no please!!
I'm in for waiting a bit for a better solution. Might even be worth now to ask bunnie from the novena project, if he has some Shenzen connections that might help out... (I could contact him for that)
I'm in for waiting a bit for a better solution. Might even be worth now to ask bunnie from the novena project, if he has some Shenzen connections that might help out... (I could contact him for that)
GizmoTheGreen
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Evildragon, could you try using a PiDrive with the pyra prototype?
BOE are visiting me tomorrow to check that and try to find other touchscreens.
Also, Fatihs company is actively checking with their touchscreen manufacturers (who are the same that made the Pandora touchscreen for us) for better solutions.
We'll find one
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PiDrive? What's that?
Also, Fatihs company is actively checking with their touchscreen manufacturers (who are the same that made the Pandora touchscreen for us) for better solutions.
We'll find one
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Evildragon, could you try using a PiDrive with the pyra prototype?
PiDrive? What's that?
Christoph.Krn
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It doesn't necessarily have to be about the resolution. Have you considered the technologies (and subpixel alignments) of the panels that you've been comparing?
Also, be careful if it comes to glossy anti-reflection coatings, some of those are much better than others...
Also, be careful if it comes to glossy anti-reflection coatings, some of those are much better than others...
directive0
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Its nice to see a project where the chief decision maker understands that sharing problems with the potential consumer base is not going to scare them away. If anything it adds interest and energy.
Thanks for making this whole process transparent ED.
Thanks for making this whole process transparent ED.
Well, so far, the issue can be seen with both the Pyra and Pandora touchscreen on all 720p 5" devices I tested (with different LCDs, OLED and non-OLED), whereas both look great with the Pandora, GCW Zero, computer monitors, etc.
So it sounds more like the dpi than the subpixel alignments.
GizmoTheGreen
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BOE are visiting me tomorrow to check that and try to find other touchscreens.
Also, Fatihs company is actively checking with their touchscreen manufacturers (who are the same that made the Pandora touchscreen for us) for better solutions.
We'll find one
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PiDrive? What's that?
it's a tiny harddrive Western Digital made as an accessory mainly for the raspberry pi, it's 314gb and uses usb 3 with a special cable
... why should a normal harddisk not work?
I'd use a 512GB SD Card instead though
I'd use a 512GB SD Card instead though
I'm guessing something about the USB3-over-USB2 thing...
Costs 10x as much!I'd use a 512GB SD Card instead though
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http://store.wdc.com/store/wdus/en_...e_Kit/productID.323686500/categoryId.13096100
Looking at the actual spec of that drive, I believe that the Pyra will already support it. It's simply a USB device + external power supply. The novel thing on this is that WD seems to have included a SATA-USB adapter in the drive packaging to make a 'native USB' device.
As far as I can tell this would not be any different from running a notebook SATA drive on a USB-SATA adapter.
Now, the Pyra in theory is already set up to do one better though. It has a trick USB port that also caries the SATA signal wires and with a special Pyra adapter should be able to go native SATA.
So, yeah, the PiDrive, being just another USB storage device, should work fine. Someone will need to test it.
Looking at the actual spec of that drive, I believe that the Pyra will already support it. It's simply a USB device + external power supply. The novel thing on this is that WD seems to have included a SATA-USB adapter in the drive packaging to make a 'native USB' device.
As far as I can tell this would not be any different from running a notebook SATA drive on a USB-SATA adapter.
Now, the Pyra in theory is already set up to do one better though. It has a trick USB port that also caries the SATA signal wires and with a special Pyra adapter should be able to go native SATA.
So, yeah, the PiDrive, being just another USB storage device, should work fine. Someone will need to test it.
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Thats just a standard 2,5 drive with an integrated SATA to USB3 adapter, which they are probably selling in a cased version as portable drives. There is nothing special here, except that they also ship a USB cable where the power lines are additionally connected to another USB plug, and a power supply they are sure of it can power both, the hdd and the Pi.
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And it can be used to look at someone else without them noticing that. Pyra with a glossy screen - Secret Agent Edition!
