WizardStan
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*renames Pyra to CARL*Here you go: a Pyra layout proposal especially designed for ZXDunny, SONY and SNESFAN:
*renames Pyra to CARL*Here you go: a Pyra layout proposal especially designed for ZXDunny, SONY and SNESFAN:
passes the "I don't need to google search to find the button you want me to push" testHere you go: a Pyra layout proposal especially designed for ZXDunny, SONY and SNESFAN:
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/d2572f9398fe6357af177ac239b8e0b7
Are you saying these guys are bots? That explains a few thingspasses the "exaggerate a theoretical problem of a group of people that doesn't actually exist" testHere you go: a Pyra layout proposal especially designed for ZXDunny, SONY and SNESFAN:
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/d2572f9398fe6357af177ac239b8e0b7
I like it
I'd be fine with ABXY but NSEW is better IMHO.Well, the way I see it (and I do understand that people - especially the basement dwellers - are going to just hate this) is that there's a DPad. On the other side of the keyboard is this dominant-looking diamond of four buttons. Now, call me bonkers but I reckon that just shouts "Gaming!" to most folks. With the Pandora we didn't get PgUp/Dn/Home/End on there because that's where those functions should be - we got them because they were available. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe they were labelled "ABXY".
I'm honestly warming up to this. Documentation can easily refer to them as either "North" or just "(N)", easily done in both ascii and verbal communication, which seems like it would solve the primary concern with using just ABXY. Provided the user has ever seen a compass, like you say (and I'd be surprised if someone didn't have at least some experience of what the cardinal directions are), then "North button" should be plenty of context to know which it is. Even without looking it should be clear that that means it is the "top" button.Unless you're in Australia. Actually, does Australia actually use a South-Up map or is that just movies making a joke?My guess is that most people know the cardinal points of the compass without concious thought that's why NSEW seems like a better call to me than ABXY.
I like that the layout has 5 keys that are all labeled 'A'. I'm always looking for A key, and with this layout I'll always be able to find A key with the least amount of searching. This is a fantastic and novel way to conquer the clutter - thank you!Here you go: a Pyra layout proposal especially designed for ZXDunny, SONY and SNESFAN:
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/d2572f9398fe6357af177ac239b8e0b7
And here we go again...I have a great idea:
We use αβγδ.
- If someone wants to talk about these buttons, he just can type "alpha, beta, gamma, delta" instead of copying it from somewhere else like other weird symbols
- We make it in Meta color. So if pressed with meta it actually produces the symbols αβγδ+- ⇒ good for math guys
- instead of using Pg up / Pg down / Home / End symbols which are known by just a small number of people, we put it in letters under the buttons. Yes, it isn't backlit. And yes, if we use stickers for this to reduce costs, it will peel off after some time. But until this happens the user has already learned what the button does.
- The two other action buttons are labled the same way. Because of the same reasons.
That would be a joke. We normally place north at the top of our maps, just like everyone else.Unless you're in Australia. Actually, does Australia actually use a South-Up map or is that just movies making a joke?
I can say pretty much all of the USA...Are there some stats with how many people in first world countrys dont know what the first greek letters are?
My current keyboard layout proposal has a GREEK key at Meta+G, which is a dead key which you press first, and then a Latin letter, and you can use it to produce all Greek letters: αβςδεφγηιθκλμνοπχρστυωξψζ ΑΒΔΕΦΓΗΙΘΚΛΜΝΟΠΧΡΣΤΥΩΞΨΖ. That is better than just having the first four lowercase Greek letters.I have a great idea:
We use αβγδ.
- If someone wants to talk about these buttons, he just can type "alpha, beta, gamma, delta" instead of copying it from somewhere else like other weird symbols
- We make it in Meta color. So if pressed with meta it actually produces the symbols αβγδ+- ⇒ good for math guys]
North South West East are reasonable names to refer to the action buttons in a "neutral", ASCII-only way. Much better than YXAB indeed!NSEW does seem like a pretty sane suggestion, actually.
I like it.
Better than all the possible combinations of ABXY
Better that PYRA (RAPY)
more practical than colours
Better than weird symbols nobody recogises
Alpha-beta-gamma-delta seems like a bad idea vs playstation-like greek chars
Because people will talk about up-arrow and not know whether they mean dpad or face buttons.Why not label them with some kind of "compass arrows"
My guess, too.Because people will talk about up-arrow and not know whether they mean dpad or face buttons.Why not label them with some kind of "compass arrows"
Two sets of arrows is begging for confusion