Offtopic or not? I've got deja vu here. ED, please, tell me is it really true what ZX Dunny claims now: > And as far as I'm aware, everyone who ordered a Pandora got one... As I'm aware, Craig left at least hundreds of undelivered orders (Pandoras, not ICP+). Including mine. I'm not sure how much was he involved with Pandora software projects (I know of his SpecBAS Pandora port), but I do remember that he was polite to Craig much longer then most of folks here. And I do know that he helped Mr. Levy of Vega+ to recover some crucial data etc (his own words at related topic here). Great fellowship here... This is all going now at FB "Retro Computers Ltd Vega Plus Public Discussion" closed group, I'm sure someone here is a member so it can be seen.