Shortest newspost ever... for now!

[Caine]

Okaaay... I honestly did not expect that

You are probably better at it than I am. Let me try to translate
(assuming you intended .i mi tavla la lojban)...

"I speak Lojban, however I still need to wait for two months". Correct?

Don't we all

What is the place structure of the tanru denpa masti? It throws me off a bit.

<edit>Wouldn't .i mi tavla la lojban translate to I am talking to lojban?

tavla : x1 talks/speaks to x2 about subject x3 in language x4

.i mi tavla fo la lojban.
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<edit2>Oh wait... tavla lojban as in a tanru of the gismu tavla and the lujvo lojban.

Wouldn't that mean something like "I am a spoken type of logical language"...
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[Mese96]

Dammit.

Opened Wikipedia to find out what lojban is, and spent 2 hours reading about a dozen constructed languages.

 

[Caine]

You have to love the insanity of Ithkuil

/qhûl-lyai’svukšei’arpîptó’ks
listen

‘...being hard to believe, after allegedly trying to go back to repeatedly inspiring fear using rag-tag groups of suspicious-looking clowns, despite resistance’

 

[Mese96]

Looks interesting, and complicated.
I would rather try to learn lojban someday then Ithkuil.

 

[Letalis Sonus]

That makes me wonder whether there's anything more sophisticated then Quenya. With its whole linguistic history and well documented phonetics it makes Klingon look like a kindergarten, hardly any linguist cares about details like these.

 

[ible]

apparently there are songs in lojban

https://mw.lojban.org/papri/Lojban_music

 

[Caine]

apparently there are songs in lojban

Quite a few actually. According to my standard, the higher quality ones are the album and single by Djemynai:
https://djemynai.bandcamp.com
And several singles:
- lo mi jufra
- lo jbobau cu mo
- jmive za'o (still alive from portal)

Conlangs are quite an interesting topic, but perhaps the news thread is not the right place. Should we split it to a separate thread?

 

[Calculus]

Jes, ni devus.

Yes, we should.

 

[rygD]

 

[Binky]

^ Am I missing some inspired relevancy that has to this thread?

 

[elwing]

After 10 pages, it's only natural for threads to have lost their relevance...

 

[FBnil]

Correct?

je'u

^ Am I missing some inspired relevancy that has to this thread?

Yes. The minion language has loaned from portuguese, english, french, japanese and a few other languages. So if you know these, you actually understand what they are saying.

We have strayed from the path! This should be a keyboard thread by now...
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[Letalis Sonus]

I actually learned the Latin pronunciation of the Caesarian era in school. Granted, my teacher was really one of a kind - he started making his own low-priced school "books" (monochrome printed stapled standard paper) for our lessons and soon teachers all over the place suddenly started using them as well...

 

[Kippykip]

WEW lads

 

[paralabamba]

Boum Shakalaka it smell good 2018 will be a good year...

 

[FBnil]

What is the place structure of the tanru denpa masti?

http://vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/denpa
It's been a few years though, I had this one sentence in my notes (and it finally came handy). Defining times is complex.

Wouldn't .i mi tavla la lojban translate to I am talking to lojban?

Hmm, "la" is like "nu volgt een zelfstandig naamwoord"/substantief /The next word is with a capital. See https://mw.lojban.org/papri/How_to_use_xorlo
So you can translate it as: I speak the one(s) called Lojban (note capital L in Lojban)
But also like: la .alis. cu prami la .kevin. = Alice loves Kevin

Not putting anything (like I erroneously did) is like

.i mi tavla baurnuludu = I speak to dutch [something?]
.i mi tavla lo [prenu] baurnuludu = I speak to dutch [people]
.i mi tavla la baurnuludu = I speak [THE] Dutch [language] (bau=language; bau rnuludu ~ Nederlands ==Dutch)

With a little help of: http://www.lojban.org/jboski/index.php

.i mi tavla la lojban = I speak the Lojban language
.i mi tavla lojban = Syntax error. Does not parse in Lojban.


It is a language we could be communicating with A.I. in, in the near future. So don't write it off yet.

 

[Caine]

Yes, la signifies that a cmene follows, i.e. a proper noun or name.

I still think the usage is incorrect.

tavla x1 talks/speaks to x2 about subject x3 in language x4

In the sentence: .i mi tavla la lojban you are putting the name Lojban in the x2 slot. When you say you speak lojban then you want to put it in x4. Hence: .i mi tavla zo'e zo'e la lojban or alternatively .i mi tavla fo la lojban

I usually use se bangu (using se to swap the x1 and x2 places)

bangu x1 is a/the language/dialect used by x2 to express/communicate x3 (si'o/du'u, not quote)

.i mi se bangu la lojban
or
.i mi se bangu lo jbobau

My preference is lo jbobau over la lojban. The lujvo lojban predicates being a logical type of langauge (loglan, lojban, toaq), while the lujvo jbobau predicated being a lojbanic type of language (lojban and all its dialects, experimental cmavo etc...). That is also why one uses la lojban i.e. the name of the language over lo lojban a logical language. That said, I also just like the sound of jbobau better

logji x1 [rules/methods] is a logic for deducing/concluding/inferring/reasoning to/about x2 (du'u), loj
lojbo x1 reflects [Loglandic]/Lojbanic language/culture/nationality/community in aspect x2, lob jbo
bangu x1 is a/the language/dialect used by x2 to express/communicate x3 (si'o/du'u, not quote), ban bau

 

[spud42]

shouldnt all this language discussion be taken to the off topic section?

 

[Caine]

Yes it should. Can a mod move it please?

 

[Hellfleck]

could ... not ... resist, so sorry