ptitSeb
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As far as I'm concerned, most Java/Mono/Python games are also using native libs, that need to be recompiled too.
Well, apparently there have been some developments with packaging that I wasn't yet aware of. Thanks for mentioning DBP.PNDs will NOT transfer fine as they're soft float instead of hard float and are stuck with libraries that were built in from years ago. There's also the fact that the PND system isn't going to be implemented into the PyraOS because of all this.Well, besides the theoretically possible switch of architectures that TrashyMG mentioned (and he is correct about the implications), it depends on how the software is packaged/installed. PND packages like we use on the Pandora would transfer fine. Packages that you installed from apt-get would end up on the eMMC, and so would have to be re-installed.
Incidentally, it's also possible that a newer generation ARM chip could create issues, but they would most likely be confined to system files and not likely to affect things like games. Of course, programs compiled for the new architecture generation would most likely make more efficient use of it.
DBP is now the new standard and it's based on Open Desktop which is already built for purpose.
A potential release plan:
- Make a low spec Pyra
- Take money
- Don't deliver
- Up the specs
- Make people queue
- Tell people they can get it quicker if they pay a premium fee
- Take the fee
- Don't deliver
- Up the specs
- Buy a 3D printer
- Say the new model costs more, and anyone buying it has highest priority, allow people to pay more money to get it quicker with a premium fee
- Take more money
- Make a few units, send them off
- Any complaints just delete them from the order queue, leave the scene, silently wrap up the company
And my favorite: "What's your order number!?!?"There should be a way to make posts that are only visible to veteran forum members.
It's a shame poking fun at he who shall not be named is such a potentially dangerous pastime... afterall, his antics are certainly meme worthy in this community - right up there with two months. Hell, his antics *inspired* two months...
Linux supports memory hotplug - is it possible to get this working for the Pyra maybe?The downside is it increases power consumption a lot (and power consumption is already on the high side since it's not a low-power DDR technology)
I'd go for the premium model too, but I'd really like to see the RAM upgraded on it... if memory hotplug is workable, 8 GB would be idealAnd I would suggest to make two models of the Pyra, a cheap base model and a more expensive premium model.
Features of the base model:
- 4GB (or maybe 8GB) fast eMMC, enough to install a decent base OS (after all that's still much larger than the Pandora NAND), but not much spare room
- no 3/4G
- wifi with 2.4GHz only
- cheaper than the premium model (e.g. 450 EUR)
Features of the premium model:
- 16GB (or maybe 32GB or even 64GB) fastest-possible eMMC
- 3/4G module
- wifi with 2.4GHz and 5GHz channels
- all other tech specs identical to the base model
- 250 EUR more expensive than the base model (e.g. 700 EUR)
This is just a completely made-up proposal, and just my personal opinion.
I would personally want to get the premium model, but I think it's good to have a more affordable option that still has all the essential features, in particular for people who intend to still use a phone or tablet as primary internet device. Or if you're mostly interested in retro-gaming/emulation, then there's no need for lots of internal storage and fancy internet options.
I personally would have been very happy with 4GB.Linux supports memory hotplug - is it possible to get this working for the Pyra maybe?The downside is it increases power consumption a lot (and power consumption is already on the high side since it's not a low-power DDR technology)
I'd go for the premium model too, but I'd really like to see the RAM upgraded on it... if memory hotplug is workable, 8 GB would be idealAnd I would suggest to make two models of the Pyra, a cheap base model and a more expensive premium model.
Features of the base model:
- 4GB (or maybe 8GB) fast eMMC, enough to install a decent base OS (after all that's still much larger than the Pandora NAND), but not much spare room
- no 3/4G
- wifi with 2.4GHz only
- cheaper than the premium model (e.g. 450 EUR)
Features of the premium model:
- 16GB (or maybe 32GB or even 64GB) fastest-possible eMMC
- 3/4G module
- wifi with 2.4GHz and 5GHz channels
- all other tech specs identical to the base model
- 250 EUR more expensive than the base model (e.g. 700 EUR)
This is just a completely made-up proposal, and just my personal opinion.
I would personally want to get the premium model, but I think it's good to have a more affordable option that still has all the essential features, in particular for people who intend to still use a phone or tablet as primary internet device. Or if you're mostly interested in retro-gaming/emulation, then there's no need for lots of internal storage and fancy internet options.
It just takes one look at the service that ED has provided and still does provide (beyond the call of duty) to Craig's customers to see just how different this project is.And why so many people feel the need to taint the forums of the current project with repeated odes to the past project and the antics of he who should not be named is puzzling at best.
This isn't that project. This won't become that project. That person is not involved in this project. You're scaring the tourists.
We do:So maybe we have some news soon .
<edit>@EvilDragon1717 said:RAM is not yet working properly - but the Debug output is different. Either it has a broken trace OR the bootloader needs an update.
Woohoo!!! The next milestone. This is great news.@EvilDragon1717 said:The #Pyra BOOTS! Nikolaus successfully booted up a kernel on the devboard! We're getting there!
4 GB is far too little for primary computing device IMO.My desktop has 16 GB and I'm constantly swapping it to 24-25 GB.I personally would have been very happy with 4GB.
I'm sure the 2GB will take us far... but I intend to use the Pyra as my primary computing device, and 2GB to do heavy graphics work has me concerned.
I totally disagree, 4GB is more than enough (intact it's mostly standard these days as 2GB chips are cheap as chips now!) 16GB is only useful if you have super high resolution demanding games or are intending on running Memory Leaking browsers like Google Chrome.4 GB is far too little for primary computing device IMO.I personally would have been very happy with 4GB.
I'm sure the 2GB will take us far... but I intend to use the Pyra as my primary computing device, and 2GB to do heavy graphics work has me concerned.
My desktop has 16 GB and I'm constantly swapping it to 24-25 GB.
Maybe 2 GB will be sufficient for my intended use (VNC + minimal local stuff like Uber), but the more the better IMO...
Windows user? I have yet to use more than 1GB on the devboard even with a heavy amount of multi-tasking. Not sure what graphic work you plan on doing, but I think you will run into CPU loading issues before the memory becomes a problem.4 GB is far too little for primary computing device IMO.I personally would have been very happy with 4GB.
I'm sure the 2GB will take us far... but I intend to use the Pyra as my primary computing device, and 2GB to do heavy graphics work has me concerned.
My desktop has 16 GB and I'm constantly swapping it to 24-25 GB.
Maybe 2 GB will be sufficient for my intended use (VNC + minimal local stuff like Uber), but the more the better IMO...
HOLY CARP :blink: What are you doing that you consider "normal" to use that much? I've got 8GB and the only time it ever hits swap is when I open up 50+ tabs in Chromium.My desktop has 16 GB and I'm constantly swapping it to 24-25 GB
I've gotten to over 8GiB memory use mostly with several virtual machines running while using two heavy IDEs (a project has design and template files in both, which sucks). Just because of that case I need 16GiB in my workstation, but I've never needed swap at home after going 16GiB.HOLY CARP :blink: What are you doing that you consider "normal" to use that much? I've got 8GB and the only time it ever hits swap is when I open up 50+ tabs in Chromium.My desktop has 16 GB and I'm constantly swapping it to 24-25 GB
Even non-"normal" stuff like compiling massive projects or loading large models in Blender generally stay below 4GB.
Im exitet for the Succes of the CPU Board, i mean the fact the protoryphe now boots the Kernel, proves, nikolaus work was a succes, ..We do:So maybe we have some news soon .
@EvilDragon1717 said:RAM is not yet working properly - but the Debug output is different. Either it has a broken trace OR the bootloader needs an update.Woohoo!!! The next milestone. This is great news.@EvilDragon1717 said:The #Pyra BOOTS! Nikolaus successfully booted up a kernel on the devboard! We're getting there!
These tweet updates from Ed arent coming through quick enough!We do:So maybe we have some news soon .
@EvilDragon1717 said:RAM is not yet working properly - but the Debug output is different. Either it has a broken trace OR the bootloader needs an update.Woohoo!!! The next milestone. This is great news.@EvilDragon1717 said:The #Pyra BOOTS! Nikolaus successfully booted up a kernel on the devboard! We're getting there!