Some personal stuff - and prototypes building!


Good morning all
Have a beautiful week.The samples from 3D printing arrived last week. We had tested both Buttons,Metal spring and plastic. Both are working Fine. We will move forward with metal spring cause i found the correct Spring for the top buttons that gives nice and smooth movement. Right now we will move forward Recreating the mold for the buttons . Also this month i am waiting a special PC with V0 as raw matterial.It seems this month i will manage to create some Complete Samples to ED and hopefully move forward with production .In the pictures you will see Both buttons (metal and plastic Spring) .The metal spring you see (Just the spring,not the Button) now is deferend from what i had ordered today cause i found better ones for the movement
Looks like you could get better utility by lubing that shaft. (GIF not included) I did it on the protocase hinges and whatnot, and it was a lot better.
 
I don't understand as to what you are referring. Maybe including the gif* for reference might have been better, but I'm not sure.

*I think they're all jpegs attached to that post, but I'll let that slide.
 
Good morning All. Today we will finish with the mold from Buttons .The only thing left is to use the Cooper for electrodepositionel .After that ,the mold need to go on injection to do the Test and then produce all the parts from Pyra and send samples to ED.I am not familiar uploading videos in Youtube. I did a private one i hope you can see it .Incase you dont see video inform me
 

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Nice photos.

Sadly the video doesn't work.
It say's the video isn't available.
Does the video have the ID: "EkK4iakw2EQ" ?

Is it set to published or not listed?
If it is set to other publishing-modes no one but you is able to see it.
 
Nice photos.

Sadly the video doesn't work.
It say's the video isn't available.
Does the video have the ID: "EkK4iakw2EQ" ?

Is it set to published or not listed?
If it is set to other publishing-modes no one but you is able to see it.
Please Recheck the video and inform me.
 
Yes, indeed very sweet.

This is I think the first time I've heard about copper electrodeposition; I assume it's copper electroplating using electrolysis. Is this just to smooth out the milling marks, or is it related to the coatings you're intending to apply at the end?

And I'm slightly surprised you didn't need to flood that milling with cooling fluid, but I guess a small tungsten carbide bit removes so little metal at each pass that it doesn't actually heat up anything too much.
 
Yes, indeed very sweet.

This is I think the first time I've heard about copper electrodeposition; I assume it's copper electroplating using electrolysis. Is this just to smooth out the milling marks, or is it related to the coatings you're intending to apply at the end?

And I'm slightly surprised you didn't need to flood that milling with cooling fluid, but I guess a small tungsten carbide bit removes so little metal at each pass that it doesn't actually heat up anything too much.
yep.Cooper is about to smooth the milling marks :) .
 
Am I right in saying the camerawork or video quality hasn't gotten better in 7 years?
Getting more technical, though I could be fooled by the sleek technique of throwing fish into a storage container. We need more videos on both.

Also, how much to CNC-mill a case with way less precision than that?

i am sorry my friend. I dint really understand your question .
 
this tools are Hand Made from carbide funds
Amazing that you're able to grind the material to a diameter this small.
It looks like something between ø0,1 to ø0,5mm.
And the diamater to lengh ratio is extreme.
I wouldn't be able to do that on my tool grinder.

The bearings of my mill isn't nearly good enough to have a small enough run out to use this kind of tools.
And the tool holder alone must have cost a little fortune.
(I had a 0,3mm carbide drill with internal cooling in my hands and I'm always afraid of breaking them by only looking hard enough at them. And they were all CNC ground.)
 
@azouls : Thanks for the Update on the Moulds, so this means our first Mass Produktion Pyra Shoulderbuttons will also get these Springs ??
Because my own Pandora Story begun whit a stuck right Shoulderbutton and instead of send it in our fix it myself, i first mapped this Button on a diverent button, then some months later, i found a Screwdriver thats fits and opend my Pandora, this was also the first time in my live that i opened up such a Handheld Device..

I ditnt have lots of Elektronik Hardware Modding experience, i remember that i once changed the Graphics Card and the Case Fan on my old PC, and i played lot of LEGO when i was a Child..

So a Spring instead of a Foampad sounds much better for me..
 
@azouls : Thanks for the Update on the Moulds, so this means our first Mass Produktion Pyra Shoulderbuttons will also get these Springs ??
Because my own Pandora Story begun whit a stuck right Shoulderbutton and instead of send it in our fix it myself, i first mapped this Button on a diverent button, then some months later, i found a Screwdriver thats fits and opend my Pandora, this was also the first time in my live that i opened up such a Handheld Device..

I ditnt have lots of Elektronik Hardware Modding experience, i remember that i once changed the Graphics Card and the Case Fan on my old PC, and i played lot of LEGO when i was a Child..

So a Spring instead of a Foampad sounds much better for me..

I am not the correct person to answer this But Since the case dint change (expect PCB placement ) and only the buttons from it had been change i dont thing there will be a problem to do it your self. We manage to make it easy from production.I will send couple of Buttons and 2000 Springs to ED with the Samples.
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Amazing that you're able to grind the material to a diameter this small.
It looks like something between ø0,1 to ø0,5mm.
And the diamater to lengh ratio is extreme.
I wouldn't be able to do that on my tool grinder.

The bearings of my mill isn't nearly good enough to have a small enough run out to use this kind of tools.
And the tool holder alone must have cost a little fortune.
(I had a 0,3mm carbide drill with internal cooling in my hands and I'm always afraid of breaking them by only looking hard enough at them. And they were all CNC ground.)

well my friend, All the good tools and machines are very expensive.This carbine fund is a hand made one and if you dont use the correct speed and movement then it will brake.It is very important to know very Well what is the Steel made of before using the Carbine fund.There are deferend kind of Steels out there .We are working with Meusberger and Petrodi for the Molds and they have specifications of what the steel is made off so that way we know what kind of tool to use to cutting them and what is the correct speed and movement.Also there is 30 years of experiance on that job that goes from Father to Sons .So all the companies has their secrets :) . No matter what who ever comes here in (Greece ,Thessaloniki) and wants to see how the plastics and molds are made off i will be glad to show them . This is small video from the factory
 
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