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No, it goes like this. You email them and ask if you can get into the first batch. You don't hand over any money. If there's a Pandora available for you, they'll get back to you with pricing details & payment instructions.
craigix said:Right, where the fuck are those vapourware twats? I want to punch them in the face.
I wonder if that'll stop them? They might just start saying, "I've never seen one in person. Till I see one in person, it didn't happen." 4000 worldwide isn't that much, after all. Punch them in the face is a good option. :lol:Rivroner said:craigix said:Right, where the fuck are those vapourware twats? I want to punch them in the face.
Me too man, me too, but until all the 4000 Pandoras arrive every home these "vaporware people" will not stop trolling.
In my (limited) understanding of the process, you actualy freeze the entire RAM to disk, including the loaded drivers. They are "frozen" and may not even know that they are frozen when you recover the Disk "image" to the RAM. So I thought the drivers continue because they didn't know they were out of the Ram...somehow... ^^""""notaz said:Why wouldn't it? When you suspend the system most peripherals are basically turned off and "forget" their state, when resumed something needs to bring them back to where they were before suspend.fusion_power said:At least it needs a huge ammount of time because all the drivers need to support these functions. (I wonder why a driver does need to know such stuff)
Sorry, that's just not enough. Most of the peripheral state will be in registers in the peripherals themselves, which will be reset as they lose power during suspend. Some of those registers can't even be read back, which means the driver must reestablish their values on resume. For some devices, the simple workaround is just to unload the driver entirely during suspend, but unless you have some solution for each driver in use, you can't do a true suspend.fusion_power said:In my (limited) understanding of the process, you actualy freeze the entire RAM to disk, including the loaded drivers. They are "frozen" and may not even know that they are frozen when you recover the Disk "image" to the RAM. So I thought the drivers continue because they didn't know they were out of the Ram...somehow... ^^""""
Actually, what needs to happen is to turn everything off but the RAM (so the ram will keep its contents), which saves an incredible amount of battery power.fusion_power said:In my (limited) understanding of the process, you actualy freeze the entire RAM to disk, including the loaded drivers. They are "frozen" and may not even know that they are frozen when you recover the Disk "image" to the RAM. So I thought the drivers continue because they didn't know they were out of the Ram...somehow... ^^""""notaz said:Why wouldn't it? When you suspend the system most peripherals are basically turned off and "forget" their state, when resumed something needs to bring them back to where they were before suspend.fusion_power said:At least it needs a huge ammount of time because all the drivers need to support these functions. (I wonder why a driver does need to know such stuff)
Rivroner said:craigix said:Right, where the fuck are those vapourware twats? I want to punch them in the face.
Me too man, me too, but until all the 4000 Pandoras arrive every home these "vaporware people" will not stop trolling.
why not just buy a netbook and a usb controllercraigix said:Then they will just attack the device itself. Twisting facts to suit their agenda of hating the Pandora because it exists.
Patrick R Ludvigsen said:why not just buy a netbook and a usb controller
that does everything the pandora does except better and its cheaper at the same time!!!!!
craigix said:Right, where the fuck are those vapourware twats? I want to punch them in the face.
yannv said:Sorry, that's just not enough. Most of the peripheral state will be in registers in the peripherals themselves, which will be reset as they lose power during suspend. Some of those registers can't even be read back, which means the driver must reestablish their values on resume. For some devices, the simple workaround is just to unload the driver entirely during suspend, but unless you have some solution for each driver in use, you can't do a true suspend.fusion_power said:In my (limited) understanding of the process, you actualy freeze the entire RAM to disk, including the loaded drivers. They are "frozen" and may not even know that they are frozen when you recover the Disk "image" to the RAM. So I thought the drivers continue because they didn't know they were out of the Ram...somehow... ^^""""
Some sort of standby might be easier. That involves still keeping some devices powered, while shutting down more power hungry functions like backlight, radio transmitters and video signals. The pandora is expected to ship with an option of this type, and suspend might be worked out later.
/copydir said:now that you have production pandoras. can you tell us about the Dpad and how it feels etc...
Just wondering if DaveC's mods held up in the molding process.