It reminds me of the Pandora!


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Im also crossing fingers that the Ordered Omaps are still available, cause i doubt you can pay for a completly new CPU Board Development yet,
Also im quite curious what the good old Omap 5 could do ^^
And like my Unimog Hobby suggest, im a bit a fan of old tech, so the Omap 5 should fit quite good, in my shema..

So there are 2 Sets of Stickers? One whit Emai and one whitout? And do whe also have "Spare Sets in Case somewhone screw the Sticker gluing"?
 

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I guess it'll be a little like the GHz unit stickers some of us got with out 1GHz Pandoras. They had a rebirth main sticker under the battery, with a blue 1GHz sticker stuck somewhere on top of it. Mine was towards the top left of the battery compartment, to the right of the battery contacts, but I've also seen pictures where it's off to the top right of the rebirth sticker. I guess those that ordered a non-cellular unit will just not get an IMEI sticker and an unadorned box.
 

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Maybe whe write about to much about stickers, i would also be happy whit a "Post It Note" that says "Pyra Number 28, 4G 4GB, dont trow in fire, have fun whit it ^^ But i guess its needs much less time to put 2 Stickers in then to write a Post it
 

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So, just a quick update regarding the availability situation:
GC is at it at the moment.
TI switched from EBV to Arrow as new distributor a few years ago.
Last time GC checked last year, the OMAP5 was still available.

Normally, you'll be informed upfront if a product you use is out of production and both TI and Arrow should be aware we're using it.
So unless they have forgotten about us (which is something we don't hope), it should still be available.
And even IF they have forgotten, it could very well be TI has some reserve lying around somewhere, so it could be they still have 700 left which were not planned to be sold.

I'll let you know as soon as I have more info.

Until then, we continue to assemble what we have (at least 530 units) and in worst case will check for a CPU which isn't too hard to adapt.
 

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Thanks for the quick update ED! I'm now even thinking about buying an EVM just in case I need to cannibalize it on the worst case scenario..
 
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Thanks for the quick update ED! I'm now even thinking about buying an EVM just in case I need to cannibalize it on the worst case scenario..
You can do that!? I imagine desoldering and reusing a chip like this is hard as hell.
 

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Yeah, thanks for the update ED. It is much appreciated that you keep us updated, even when it's not necessarily good news, and especially when you surely have a lot weighing on your mind and have other concerns besides the Pyra.

I'm highly likely to not be in the first 530 but even if it was worst case, will be spending the money in your shop irrespective.
 

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Whewwww, quite a while since I found the time to post something here - so sorry about that!

It's been pretty hectic and stressful times, a lot of organizational work is happening in the background (not only Pyra-related, as I also need to take care enough cash flows into our company as well, but a lot of that is Pyra-stuff too).

So, what's happened, what's the status, when will we ship?
This is probably what most of you are asking :)

Well, assembly has started - mostly Askarus was doing it, as I was still busy with organizing some things.
And...it totally reminded me of how we started with assembling the Pandora!

There are a lot of small things we need to fix. Cut some plastic rests here and there, and so on.
So it's a slow start, as expected (similar to the first assembly of the Pandora :D)

These are all things you don't realize when you build prototypes - but when you start mass production.

As soon as Covid-19 gets better, I'll need to go to Greece so we can discuss what issues we have left here.

The good thing is though: It just will be a bit more work to assemble the Pyras. It's nothing that will make it impossible to assemble them fully (which COULD'VE happened as well).

Also, the coating company needs to tweak the machines a bit, as there were quite a few parts that have a too thick coating on, so they can't be used.
But they're already working on the next batch.

So, are there any units assembled yet that can be shipped?

No - simply because we're doing it in a similar fashion to the Pandora:
First, we assemble the lids with the LCD, magnet, illuminated logo, displayboard and LCD Cable.

After that, we combine these with the base-keyboard part and put everything else in there (speaker, nubs, keymat).
Then the PCBs are being put in and finally, the backpart including the shoulder buttons is put on.

So we're NOT assembling unit after unit - but we take a larger batch (around 100 - 150 units) and then we're doing each step for all these and then the next step.

The reason for that is that you are a lot faster, when you're repeating the same thing over and over again. So while it will take longer, before the first machines ship, it will be faster in the end (trust me, we tried that already with the Pandora).

Another issue is space. With the Pandora, we had Craigs huge town hall where we could easily put 300 half-finished units on one large table... right, now, we're very limited and have to rearrange parts and half-finished units all the time. Which is pretty annoying.
It looks like I'll rent some small hall where we can do that. I've already found one for a decent price (200 EUR a month) and am just waiting for the confirmation.

Then we'll have our very own Pyra assembly space :D

The box design by traylorpark has been finished in the mean time and the boxes should arrive here in 2 - 3 weeks.
Everything else is already here... so let's hope we can ramp up assembly speed soon :)

So, again, I'm very sorry for not posting in a long time... but organization is just something that eats away your time. :/
Don’t really care for a fancy box, which will end up in the garbage bin anyway. Just wrap it up in an old newspaper and ship it
 

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Im realy looking forward for the Fancy Box, i use to put them on my Shelf if they are special, , i allready have the box from my GBA Micro, the 2DS XL, the Switch Lite, the C64 Maxi and the Pandora on my Shelf,
Although Originally my Pandora came just in the Carry Case, but after a Case Swapp at EvilDragons shop he also shipped the Pandora Cardboard Box..
Yeahrs ago, i also ceeped the Boxes of Old Handheld accessorys, but some weeks ago i trow them in the Bins for Paper and Plastik because they dont have that much vallue than the actuall Console Boxes..

They where 3 Plastic Garbage Bags full of them..

But well, a box is nice to have, but on every day use, you only have the Pyra whit you...
 

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Well, usually, a manufacturer informs all their customers if a product becomes obsolete including a deadling - so you can buy any remaining stock and place last orders if need be, and TI has not yet informed us about anything like that, so they should still have remaining stock.
One reason could be that you never ordered the neccessary amount of parts that you count as a customer with an active production. 500 pices for them is more like prototyping.

I've dropped emails to my TI contacts and GC to find that out as well. Hopefully, it was just false news, as it would be a pretty bad timing now that we're in production.
Maybe my contact was wrong. He works in the department for power electronics. Fingers crossed! Otherwise I have nothing to troll here anymore... Would be sad.
 

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One reason could be that you never ordered the neccessary amount of parts that you count as a customer with an active production. 500 pices for them is more like prototyping.
You also receive the message for prototype designs - because especially in this phase it's critical you are informed about something like that.
Imagine you are finished with your prototyping only to find out the part is discontinued.

Maybe my contact was wrong. He works in the department for power electronics. Fingers crossed! Otherwise I have nothing to troll here anymore... Would be sad.
Well, at least my TI EMEA Sales contact checked the internal stock and they are still available.
 
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