With full steam into the new year!


@hns:
Ok, I got your jessie-8.7-lxde rootfs running on top of my installed Stretch kernel (not in a chroot).

I see you're calling startx via /etc/inittab. If I do that, then installing systemd, systemd-shim and policykit-1 won't help to get rid of the original "No session for pid" message.
This is also reproducible in my amd64 VM. When I set that one up I started LXDE via nodm [1] and the message doesn't come up. The same helps in your rootfs.
I'm not sure though if this solution is desirable, since it adds a kind of black box with a display manager doing it's "magic".

What is your udev problem about? I didn't see any dependency problems. The only thing udev-related that I can see are a lot of messages in various logs that look essentially like this:
Code:
random: udevadm: uninitialized urandom read (16 bytes read)
This however is considered "normal" and wontfix, because Systemd starts reading from /dev/urandom before the device is ready and doesn't think it's doing anything wrong. [2]


[1] https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nodm&searchon=names&exact=1&suite=all&section=all
[2] https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/4167
 
I don't know about you, but I've seen The Fly. I'd rather wait until it's good and ready...

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Stretch? Squeeze is very old
Well it's not what it's going to ship with, plus i think he said he only uses it to generate bootstraps...

We've had a viable jessie image forever and aTc will have testing/stretch image ready in the near future.

zmatt has been playing with his own stretch image on the OMAP5 for a while now.
 
Honestly, this waiting sucks but is understandable.

I hope that these prototypes go out to devs/others asap and there will be lots of videos. That would sweeten the wait a lot. :)
 
between following the pyra and the pandora im use to the waiting. atleast this time around we are getting info and were almost there. also im going to bid on a auction offed pyra to work on and also show it off to my friend to get them to order.
 
between following the pyra and the pandora im use to the waiting. atleast this time around we are getting info and were almost there. also im going to bid on a auction offed pyra to work on and also show it off to my friend to get them to order.
We would appreciate you posting how things are going with it if you win. They wouldn't need to be long, "I jumped on it and the screen didn't break" is enough.
 
We would appreciate you posting how things are going with it if you win. They wouldn't need to be long, "I jumped on it and the screen didn't break" is enough.

So - I just got my new $1700 Pyra prototype that has never even been turned on. Will it blend?
 
In about 4 1/2 Weeks, i have my Nintendo Switch, wich will take quite a lot of the time, until the Pyra comes out.., also i have lots of books too read, , (Mr Mercedes, Finders Keeper, Mind Controll, "he is back", Illuninati, Da vinci code, Inverno, and the verry big Ken Follet Medievil Epos: The Pillars of the World..
Also im a Second Batch Pandora Preeorderer, i know how to wait..

Take the time you need to make the Pyra great, (again),

Im also would be happy to have my Pyra yesterday, but i would rather have a Pyra, which works whitout issues, than a rushed once..
 
Stretch? Squeeze is very old ;)
Was a typo. I meant Stretch... I am using Debian for so a long time that I have typed "Squeeze" so often so that my spell-checker doesn't complain :)
Another option would be to rebase on Devuan, wo are working on a Debian overlay that replaces all packages that hard depend on systemd with versions that don't. They also provide armel and armhf binaries. Moving from Debian jessie to Devuan jessie is quite easy.
Well, our Debian with systemd removed works fine - except for this popup (I think it is even only for LXDE and not for XFCE4) which is annoying for screen shots (unless the popup is closed manually) but makes no other trouble. So why change the car brand if the ash tray is full :)
@hns:
When I set that one up I started LXDE via nodm [1] and the message doesn't come up.
Ah, interesting! I didn't know that a 'nodm' package exists. Debian is wonderful. Thanks!
What is your udev problem about? I didn't see any dependency problems.
apt-get install for some systemd component complained that udev is not installable although it is already installed. But this may not be worth looking at.
Well it's not what it's going to ship with, plus i think he said he only uses it to generate bootstraps...

We've had a viable jessie image forever and aTc will have testing/stretch image ready in the near future.

zmatt has been playing with his own stretch image on the OMAP5 for a while now.
Exactly. PyraOS is built separately and will be based on whatever base you like to have.
 
apt-get install for some systemd component complained that udev is not installable although it is already installed. But this may not be worth looking at.
I can't reproduce that without more specific info, so this is more of a general hint:

In contrast to previous Debian releases, the udev package is built from the systemd sources and there are some dependencies between udev and systemd. I've seen you have jessie-backports in your sources.list. There are packages for systemd and udev in the regular (i.e. non-backports) and in the backports repos. Of course these have different versions and some packages depend on specific versions.

Now, if you want to install a package that is only available in the backports, Debian will by default still try to install the dependencies of that package from the regular repos, because backports implicitly have a lower pinning priority. If the dependencies of the backports package can't be fulfilled by the regular repos, the installation will fail due to missing dependencies.
You can override this by giving apt the option -t jessie-backports , which will cause apt to try to fulfill any dependencies from the backports.
 
Apparently, I didn't boot our OS image but a minimal image from Nikolaus (which shows a pretty empty LXDE desktop without TILER enabled).
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It has been a week, so I'll ask.

Did you ever have a chance to install the proper OS image? I'm sure we would all love to see more of this running/working near-final prototype in action.
 
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