I think this CPU upgrade may be significant enough to get another one. Very expensive, yes, but a 50% increase in performance may be worth it.
Is there really +50%?? My pandora does 800MHz easily. That's +25% only.
[..]these were quoted price for each piece to replace)
$50 - replacement screen (lcd cable?)
Did you read the thread? This is a small run of ~150 boards. It's very expensive.
Thanks for the calculation Android. LCD cable is extra.
I still can't imagine what is that extra expensive. Do the first 150 units have to pay for the machine setup alone? I'm too tired to do a search, are the 1GHz units still using the Rev 6D Board? If yes, then the machine setup was nearly complete 'cause the layout is the same. Edit: You confirmed later in this thread that it's the same PCB, so it must be Rev 6D.
Did you read his and my answer? We are not complaining about the price of $700 for a new unit, it's the $1000 for every new pandora owner.
I got 2 different batteries, we troubleshot this, we saw it was actually draining 150mW more than most units under same conditions
was a faulty wifi unit to begin with so I am lead to believe faulty hardware
High battery drain wasn't part of that contract? Then it's a manufaction error and a part of warranty in my opinion.
I want one of these in a bad way. I've got a paid for batch 2 order with ED from July 2010, anything we can do about that?
If you haven't received your Pandora yet, cancel your order at ED and buy from Craig. It will save you $300 and cost you $700.
With or without postage? With or without VAT? I don't know. You won't care badly.
I think the problem most people have with the current price for the pandora is that they aren't rationalizing it correctly.
EDIT
I know there are a few videos actually demonstrating the pandora but I had something a little more done up and professional in mind.
You won't call EDs one video a day unprofessional. Did you check
EDs offical youtube channel? It's a good overview what the pandora can do. The most people here from gp32x.de and gp2x.de and grown up with the pandora for years, they know the price of the pandora between the first preorders and the premium orders, they know the history of the inital production desaster, they understand the running gag 'two months' and they know why $499 for an actual 512MB pandora is a must have.
It needs to be clear that for now these are a custom modification to see if a) the market exists for them
Your pricing is without logical basics. An upgaded 1GHz Pandora of a rebirth Pandora will cost $1000 (btw. +VAT?) at all (rebirth pandora + upgrade), without old pandora $700, so the difference from rebirth to 1GHz is $200. That would be an upgrade price i could think about. And i'm pandora investor, which means logically i do harm my investment by this statement. But there should be some kind of understandable pricing concept. It looks like you don't want to sell to previous pandora owners, your testing would be done by unexperienced new pandora users then - which could not do a comparision between the old and new units.
The pricing is on a very logical basis - a small run of boards like this is very expensive. This isn't a retail offer, it's an offer simply for people who want to upgrade now and get their hands on the latest tech on more of a hacker basis.
What are you suggesting we do? Sell them at a loss? $699 or even $649 is the only reasonable, profit making cost we could sell the 1Ghz unit at.
I don't have a problem with the $700 units. As you noticed at Androids post we have a problem with the $1000 for upgraders.
I already sent a PM to ED a while ago but got no answer. I still have a pending 1. Batch preorder from Oct. 09 at EDs shop. Can I upgrade this order (paying) to a 1Ghz board?
No. At the moment craig, so openpandora ltd., is the only one who offer this units. You have to cancel your order and buy from craig. This would mean all warranty issues have to go via craig too.
If it's an upgrade, and it's a full board replacement with you keeping the old board, then you can effectively make an additional Pandora unit for sale for realtively cheap (cost of the screen, case etc.). You could use that additional unit sale to offset against the new board.
That's what we're doing. But you have to consider the board may need repairs or simply be uneconomical to use. So far 5 people with on-their-last-legs units have requested the new board, so their unit will most likely only be useful for us to evaluate how they deteriorate over time.
Replacing nubs, SD slots, power switches, microphones etc. is time consuming costly work.
Are you telling us that the pandora is useless scrap after 3.5 years of usage? You don't want to make 5 hand repairs responsible for the difference of $300 each for 150 units. If it's too much work to refurbish then just sell them at lower price as used units after you took your profit of deterioation analysis. Ah, sorry, i forgot what everyone who can do the math wouldn't send you it's old pandora and sell it by itself to save $300 and reduce the $700 down to $300-400. This would keep away the handling of 150 used units and saves a lot of expensive employee work. Finally i had to excuse, a very good idea.
Is it going to be possible to upgrade like this, say, next year?
If they are a success, yes.
If they are no success, yes too. Even if nobody wants the 1GHz Pandoras they must replace the actual version if it's sold out, because the old CPU isn't longer available.
I should mention once more that whenever other companies have made tiny computers like the Pandora they are often way over $1000 in price.
Which one for example?
