You didn't expect this, I guess.

Bosbeetle

Terminally lost
Colour contains light. E.g. in Haskell it could be encoded like this (simplified, there are actually many more kinds of light):

data Colour = Colour Red Green Blue
data Red = Red Int
data Green = Green Int
data Blue = Blue Int

So Red, Green, and Blue are kinds of light. And colour contains all those lights. So when you see a light you really see a colour that contains the light. Just like how when you see my writing you really see a screen that contains my writing (or maybe paper if you printed my post out to put it in a frame and hang it above your door or perhas even gold that contains my writing if you edged my writings into gold where they belong). Colour is that which contains light. Ever heard that light is waves yet can travel through a vacuum even though waves always need a medium to travel? That is because colour is the medium of light. Light waves travel through colour.

Colour is also a monoid and black is the identity because black has all values on 0 and if you add black to any colour X then the result will be the colour X. If black is not a colour, then colours do not form a monoid. That is why black must be a colour. Would you take 0 out of the numbers and then lose the monoid with the + operator? Of course not. You would need to be a total barbaric fool to do that. Likewise you would never take black out of the colours because if you did take black out of the colours then that would demote the colours from their status as proper monoid.
Light has a colour an object has not, an object merely has the ability to absorb, reflect or emit light. A banana in the dark "is" not yellow.

docbroke

Banned
Just to make it clear, light do not have any colour, it have wavelength. Our brain perceives different wavelengths as different colours. You see, the beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

λ the β-Redex Reducer

β-Redex Reducing Member
No, we were still ontopic. It's your post that derailed this thread from talking about colours which were mentioned in the newspost to talking about whether this thread is derailed or not.

bzar

A Commando
At least the thread topic applies.

Whether black or white is a color depends on your definition of color. If you'd define it as "a visually observable property of matter based on how it emits or reflects within the spectrum of visible light", every variation with a visual difference would be a different color. If you instead think about hues (that you can produce by splitting light with a prism) as colors, with shades being just variations in intensity and mixture of those, black and white are not colors, but specific intensity/mixture combinations. It's kinda pointless to argue examples of both without agreeing first on what definition of color is used. IMHO, if you agree that pink is a color, then black and white are colors as well since they all fit the first definition but not the second.

Now, about them Pyras. I'm eager to see how both potions for a final case look like. Currently I'm leaning toward matte black, but I haven't been able to really visualize how the chrome looks like based on the given description

ClockworkCoder

Chaotic Neutral
I'm also a little anxious to see the heatpipe and heatsink installed. Do we know how effective they are in terms of what clock speeds the Pyra may be capable of? Slightly concerned with that 5 week lead time... to what extent have heatsinks been tested?

Bosbeetle

Terminally lost
Just to make it clear, light do not have any colour, it have wavelength. Our brain perceives different wavelengths as different colours. You see, the beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
Yes we call the wavelength of visible light the color.

Can't wait the see the color of the first mass produced pyra's

pimaster

Banned in solidarity
Now, about them Pyras. I'm eager to see how both potions for a final case look like. Currently I'm leaning toward matte black, but I haven't been able to really visualize how the chrome looks like based on the given description
I commented before on the previous sample run asking if ED expected anything new from a sample but didn't get a reply.

matzesu

Staff member
To come back to this "Colors just are Waves, so a Black Pyra would have a diverent Color in Reality", dos this mean that everything looks diferent when whe dont look at it??

So the Paint on the Pyra will gets decides by the Community..

I just hope its want crack like the Pandora Case, but i trust in the new Case Factory..

λ the β-Redex Reducer

β-Redex Reducing Member
I want the colour of my Pyra case to be ultra-violet so that when my Pyra is closed it will be invisible to thieves.

Djoga'Ro

moonstruck
Thieves can't see things that appear black to them? What if the thief is a chameleon?

netcat

Very Active Member
as a nerd I don't really have a strong aesthetic pov
I don't give a rat's ass if pyra even emits photons
all I need is a functioning tty
and dreamcube emulator

Djoga'Ro

moonstruck
I don't give a rat's ass if pyra even emits photons
Are you planning to remove the display half?

λ the β-Redex Reducer

β-Redex Reducing Member
Thieves can't see things that appear black to them? What if the thief is a chameleon?
Ultra-violet is not black. Ultra-violet is an invisible colour and thus it'll make the Pyra invisible.

Djoga'Ro

moonstruck
Ultra-violet is not black. Ultra-violet is an invisible colour and thus it'll make the Pyra invisible.
Then nothing is black, that has a temperature above absolute zero.

pyrat

Very Active Member
No, only stores, restaurants and bars. Places, where a lot of different people meet.
Bayern has just stepped up measures, but as far as my poor German allows, I'd say it's still mostly true.
Restaurants and bars are closed, people must stay at home, but other businesses stay open and people
can move to go to work.

Next week might be different, of course, who knows. Let's hope Germany (and everywhere) avoids situations like Italy, Spain or China.

Thanks for the update, good luck, and stay safe all. I think I prefer black, but no so important.

Hardcoreufo

Still Fresh
If we really want a case with absence of color, we need the Pyra to have a clear case, the only correct choice for any electronic device.

Linux-SWAT

Hardcore Member
Pandora 1: eruption
Pandora 2: virus
Pandora 3: aliens ?