Playing with Play-Doh

[waGL]

Oberhaching? More like Uberhacking :-D

 

[Zwerg01]

I think this is the point of having the modular CPU boards, also I think developing a new replacement 2.0 board for the pyra will be easier once they're out in the wild.
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I feel the only thing that could mess up the CPU board is an archeticture change from ARM to x86, but doing so would also ruin our community's software repository, let alone the Pyra OS.

I am not well versed with this field of development, but that is my uneducated blue collar pleb opinion.

You build a hardware plattform around the CPU and not vice versa. it is nearly impossible to find a CPU that can replace the old one. other architecture has other voltages, current draw, thermal dissipation. and then it has to have the same features like emmc controller, image rotation, MIPI for 3G/4G etc etc...

I didn't found information about qualification of the OMAP5. So if it is only for consumer application, it is very likely that it is discontinued soon.
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ED already has thousands of them in stock at the fab plant, IIRC,

How many exaclty? Where did you get your information.

 

[Letalis Sonus]

like emmc controller

You mean for the eMMC chip that is part of the CPU board and therefore totally replaceable?

MIPI for 3G/4G etc etc...

MIPI covers a lot of interfaces, but the PLS8 chips use USB. I'm pretty sure we only need DSI.

I didn't found information about qualification of the OMAP5. So if it is only for consumer application, it is very likely that it is discontinued soon.

In contrast to OMAP3, OMAP5 was especially targeting the industrial and automotive market IIRC, if they've got even a single customer in that field it won't go out of production for a loooong time. The platform is already discontinued, but it should have a pretty satisfactory guaranteed availability.

 

[Zwerg01]

You mean for the eMMC chip that is part of the CPU board and therefore totally replaceable?

I said emmc controller, not emmc chip.

Renesas automotive mcu introduced 2011 is d'cont last year. Place last order until 2018. loooooooooonnnnnngggggg time. lol. It is always depending on the policy of manufacturer.

 

[Silent-Hunter]

The eMMC and CPU are on the CPU board, if there is an external eMMC controller I'm sure it's on the same board too. There would be no reason to have it on the main board.

 

[Grench]

I said emmc controller, not emmc chip.

Renesas automotive mcu introduced 2011 is d'cont last year. Place last order until 2018. loooooooooonnnnnngggggg time. lol. It is always depending on the policy of manufacturer.

Renesas now has their own SoC too. Check their H3 dev unit. ARM powerhouse.

 

[TrashyMG]

I said emmc controller, not emmc chip.

Renesas automotive mcu introduced 2011 is d'cont last year. Place last order until 2018. loooooooooonnnnnngggggg time. lol. It is always depending on the policy of manufacturer.

The eMMC controller is built into the SoC, so yet again it's still replaceable.

 

[Grench]

@EvilDragon &/or @hns

The Pyra Wiki information on SoC/CPU board revisions is pretty sparse. When you communicate with each other, what designations do you use to differentiate the versions? I'm betting others might find this information interesting as well.

What I had hoped to find in the Pyra Wiki was:
Board revision/designation/identifier:
Date PCB manufactured:
Quantity manufactured:
Date first populated:
Short blurb about characteristics (good/bad/other):

Thank you!

 

[Inqui]

Noooooooooo
Up to five days for arriving and writing :-/

 

[EvilDragon]

@EvilDragon &/or @hns

The Pyra Wiki information on SoC/CPU board revisions is pretty sparse. When you communicate with each other, what designations do you use to differentiate the versions? I'm betting others might find this information interesting as well.

What I had hoped to find in the Pyra Wiki was:
Board revision/designation/identifier:
Date PCB manufactured:
Quantity manufactured:
Date first populated:
Short blurb about characteristics (good/bad/other):

Thank you!

We have different board revisions, hns should know all about them.


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[Askarus]

Who cares about Keymats.
It's good already.

 

[ClockworkCoder]

Who cares about Keymats.
It's good already.

ED's too busy sculpting things in play-doh methinks.

 

[driftke70]

Nice. Im GM of a company in Australia that manufactures PVC for a living for people like you.

I think you guys are looking too far into this. The device will be more about how you use it.

 

[Binky]

Nice. Im GM of a company in Australia that manufactures PVC for a living for people like you.

What's that have to do with the price of fish?

 

[Klumpen]

What's that have to do with the price of fish?

 

[driftke70]

Some guy was talking about working with pvc and my phone didnt quote for some reason.

Im sorry for bringing confusion into your life

 

[Grench]

Some guy was talking about working with pvc and my phone didnt quote for some reason.

Im sorry for bringing confusion good humor into your life

 

[hns]

We have different board revisions, hns should know all about them.

Here is some info for whoever wants to write a Wiki entry (please PM me if you need more information)

• V1 first tests for shape, keyboard, shoulder buttons and sockets
• V2
• V3
• V3.5
• V4 first motherboard that works on OMAP5 EVM through adapter
• V4.5 more improvements
• V4.9 first version that works with our own OMAP5 CPU board
• V5.0 first full and complete prototypes produced @GC on mass production line (Dec 2015)
• V5.1/5.1.3 developer devices produced @GC (30/40 units built Sept 2016 and Jan 2017)
• planned V5.2 mass series

I did send a photo of all of them near each other a while ago in some other thread.
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Oberhaching? More like Uberhacking :-D

Yes, here in Bavaria we are very very conservative in traditional things. Is is simply the old german spelling and pronunciation of "Überhacking"

 

[ptitSeb]

Yes, I remember that theard with pictures of all prototype MB.

The Prototype I receive is 5.1.3

 

[Grench]

@hns
Do you have the same information for the SoC board & the display board?