Pyra christmas update :)

Discussion in 'Pyra News' started by EvilDragon, Dec 25, 2016.

  1. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Administrator Staff Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    First of all, a merry christmas to everyone!

    An update was LONG overdue - but I was overrun by pre-christmas season.
    Seriously, I expected some orders in my shop, but I was totally overwhelmed.
    I packed and shipped over 400 packages during the last 1,5 weeks, so I didn't really have time for anything else.
    I rarely visited the boards and couldn't chase up all involved companies for updates.

    But: Having SO many sales is awesome, as every single sale helps the Pyra with future funding.
    Even every single GPD Win sold in my shop will help the Pyra :)

    I'm a bit exhausted now, but I won't go to sleep before I've written my update :)

    1. The CPU-Boards

    Nikolaus is working hard on improving the layout of the CPU-Board. It's planned that all suggested changes will be implemented until early January so we can order the PCB right after Global Components resumes operation.

    So, what did we do?

    Well, most likely, the issues we have with frequencies higher than 1,2GHz derive from too few vias and / or too few decoupling capacitors.
    This results in too much noise from the power circuit which can interfere with the OMAP5 clock. And as high clock rates are especially picky... yeah, you guessed it.

    So Nikolaus is trying to add as many vias and additional capacitors as possible - which isn't easy unless we want to switch to even more layers than we're using now.

    Our initial plan was to improve everything as much as possible and order new PCBs right away to see whether it improved or not.
    And even if it wouldn't fully fix the issue, we would start with the production. Quite a few mentioned they would be fine with such a capped CPU-Board, as an upgrade when we finally resolved the issue would be easily possible.
    And even the capped CPU-Board would be multiple times as fast as the Pandora, so it would still be a really useful MiniPC.

    As mentioned, that was our initial plan... but then the following happened:

    That was an early christmas present for me - and it really shows how much the community ROCKS!

    We knew there were ways to simulate the issue, but the tools are usually expensive and you also need someone who knows what he's doing.
    Additionally, companies usually don't offer that as a service... they only do that when you let THEM design your electronics.

    And here we have someone who is willing to do the analysis for us!

    That means: We will improve the layout, send the data to him but don't have to wait for a new batch of CPU boards.
    The analysis will show us whether we still need to improve it further or whether it should be good enough.

    Joy! So next production run order date: Early January.
    And once they arrive, we'll do a quick test and can hopefully order the ones for the mass production the same day :D

    2. The Mainboards

    Ah, well. GC wanted to populate them before christmas, but they had so many other customers that they simply didn't find the time.
    It's the first thing they'll do in 2017 though.

    All the parts and bare PCBs are there, so that should be a pretty fast population.

    3. The Keymats

    Good news as well: They finished working on the mold and will produce the next samples early January as well (they also didn't manage to do it before christmas).
    These should also be the final samples... if I'm fully content with them, but I'm optistic here.

    4. The cases

    Not much to report here. I've let them know the two last remaining issues (nothing serious) and I consider the case to be 99% final.
    These cases are good enough for dev units and prototypes as well, so I can start building them in January.

    Speaking of prototypes...

    5. Prototype building

    If all goes well, January will see many assembled prototypes. Of course, they will first go to the ones who supported us with ordering prototypes a while ago, then to some devs and the remaining ones will be auctioned (probably end of January).
    They will all receive a special prototype-sticker, so it's easy to proof they're real.

    6. The LCDs

    I'm not sure whether I mentioned that or not, but all LCDs needed for mass production with the new, final touchscreens have arrived in Germany.

    Speaking of mass production, here is a quick overview...

    7. Preparing for the big run

    While we still need to test the prototypes, we are already preparing the first production run to be able to produce as fast as possible!

    What do we have...

    * ALL needed parts for the first production run of the PCBs are sitting at GC (well, except for the bare PCBs)
    * ALL needed LCDs are already in Germany and will be delivered to GC early January
    * ALL needed batteries are already sitting at GC

    What's still missing...

    * Bare PCBs. Will be produced as soon as we confirm they're working fine. Production time: About 6 weeks (CPU-Board)
    * Keymats: Will be produced as soon as I confirm the sample to be fine. Production time: About 4 weeks
    * Cases: Will be produced as soon as I confirm the samples to be fine. Production time: About 4 weeks
    * Card Boxes and manuals: Will be produced as soon as I create the design and order them. Production time: About 2 weeks
    * LCD Cables: Will produced middle of January. Production time: About 3 weeks

    Well, and that's it!
    The CPU-Board is the culprit right now - everything else should easily arrive before we have the bare CPU boards.

    I wish these things would go faster.... but that would only work if I had three or four times as much the capital.

    8. Other things

    Nikolaus finished the design of the SATA/USB-Adaptor.
    It's a little adaptor that plugs into the USB port in the back and which offers both USB AND SATA.

    I will design a small housing for it as well. I don't think the demand is high enough for a molded case, but everyone can 3D-Print the shell if he wants one.

    I'm also planning a docking station (but that will take some more time, as it means we need another plastic mold design).

    And I'm planning to create a basic mainboard without keyboard or nubs.
    Just a very simple board where you plug in a CPU board and have USB, SATA, HDMI etc. connections so you can use it as a miniature PC (like the Raspberry Pi).

    But that's all sometime in the future, right now, getting the Pyra out is the highest priority.
    I've just seen that some have been asking for that on the boards... and yes, I am in fact planning something like it.

    Well, that's it for today :)
    Time to go to bed and relax a bit (well, just one day, as I have to work again on Monday...)

    I wish you all a wonderful and relaxing christmas :)
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  2. TrashyMG

    TrashyMG Sarcasm Dispenser Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2010
    Great update Merry Christmas Evildragon.
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  3. triblelife

    triblelife Still Fresh

    Dec 17, 2016
    Merry Christmas !!!!
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  4. Cralex

    Cralex Still Fresh

    Mar 29, 2014
    Merry Christmas! A Pyra update is always a wonderful present.
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  5. Yorizuka

    Yorizuka Hi, how was your day?

    Oct 9, 2016
    Venice, Florida
    Nice to finally get an update! :D

    And a marry Christmas to every one!
    Last edited: Dec 25, 2016
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  6. Hardcoreufo

    Hardcoreufo Still Fresh

    Oct 20, 2016
    Merry Xmas all! What a great update present right as I was going to bed.

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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  7. ObiKKa

    ObiKKa Still Fresh

    Jun 5, 2015
    Merry Christmas to you and your team. You're all really working so hard!
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  8. Caine

    Caine Hardcore Member

    Jun 5, 2008
    Happy holidays Michael. Thanks for the extensive update.
    Will you be selling 3D printed shells or will we need to take the design to a 3D printing shop?
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  9. socket

    socket Member

    Aug 25, 2006
    Pittsburgh, PA, USA
    Thanks for the update. A nice Christmas present. Merry Christmas everyone!
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  10. ClockworkCoder

    ClockworkCoder Chaotic Neutral

    Jan 21, 2016
    Thanks for the best Christmas present (another update). Go and have a well deserved rest, and have a fantastic time. Looking forward to 2017 :)
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  11. Stouffa

    Stouffa Member

    May 27, 2008
    Cork, Ireland
    Happy Christmas Ed to you and your family, hope you have a great time and get to kick back and let the hair down!!

    Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk
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  12. Gren

    Gren Member

    Jun 17, 2005
    Thanks for the update ED. Now enjoy your day off! (Feel guilty having 2 weeks off).

    Merry Xmas everyone :D
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  13. 2coop4

    2coop4 Still Fresh

    Dec 2, 2016
    That's awesome thanks for the update. merry Christmas everyone!

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  14. Silent-Hunter

    Silent-Hunter Advanced Member

    May 29, 2010
    Happy Christmas! And this is good to hear about the Pyra! Looks like they will be ready relatively soon.
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  15. codifies

    codifies Very Active Member

    Sep 29, 2014
    Given that you have spent lots (all?) of your free time, probably skint yourself too, then its only fair you should get something back!

    All the best, and Merry Xmas!
  16. zedrok

    zedrok Still Fresh

    Apr 13, 2013
    Good news. Thanks for the update ed.
    Merry Xmas to everyone here.

    Gesendet von meinem SM-G901F mit Tapatalk
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  17. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Administrator Staff Member

    Mar 4, 2003
    Time will tell :)
    Maybe I'll offer it through one of those 3D-Print-on-Demand-Shops, but probably have a few in stock either.
  18. Eight Bit

    Eight Bit Advanced Member

    Nov 16, 2008
    Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Merry Christmas everybody and thank you for your update Ed!
    Is this correct?

    1st week of January: Design of PCB is done and prototype run will be initiated:
    3rd week of February: Prototype PCB's will be done and Main PCB's for mass production will be done, as well as the cases and keymats. After test and everything works (fingers crossed) the order will be placed for the mass production CPU PCB
    4th week of March or 1st week of April: Mass production of the CPU PCB will be done, assembly can begin
    2nd week of April: People start receiving their units

    Still 3,5 months.... It takes so long! :|\o/<3
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  19. Farox

    Farox Certified Guru

    Jan 8, 2009
    Happy Holidays ED and all the members of this great community.:cool:
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  20. funkyarif

    funkyarif Still Fresh

    Jun 12, 2004
    Great news to wake up too :D

    Wishing everyone on the board Merry Christmas and a Happy new year.

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