Wrapping everything up!

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It isn't like he isn't keeping us updated. I would rather him drop us a line when he can than get nothing, plus this should be an enjoyable place for him, not somewhere he dreads going because everyone is constantly bitching about how slow things are going and giving him shit for not having frequent enough formal news updates.

Thanks for everything you do, ED.
 

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There isn't a "live" schedule being officialy kept, as there is no deadline, so to speak (which I think is good for this type of project).

I think You can make out the scenarios by reading news threads from the last couple of months; once in a while ED brings up a listing of components to be acquired (like the PCB's or case materials) and processes needed to be done (like testing this or that element), along with the time estimated for them (it was done at least once, listing lead times in weeks- look for this). Your best bet is, I think, to filter ED's posts in this forum section and go back day by day until You come upon such a listing, write the predicted times down, and then start reading again from there and make notes to these time estimates.

e: Welcome to the forums :)

Thanks for the thorough response :)
 

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It isn't like he isn't keeping us updated. I would rather him drop us a line when he can than get nothing, plus this should be an enjoyable place for him, not somewhere he dreads going because everyone is constantly bitching about how slow things are going and giving him shit for not having frequent enough formal news updates.

Thanks for everything you do, ED.
This. Besides being sympathetic personally to, and generally trusting of ED, I think for this type of project, no deadline is needed- we're generally a pre-paying customer, not big CEO's putting money to the production department saying "here's the upfront payment. we need this product on the shelves of every major retailer by christmas 2018".

Yes, we want the product to be delivered, as we invested in a promise to get a good product, not to throw money out. Some of us plan to use this device for paid work, even employ it as their main tool- but I suppose even those of us won't wave the calendar at Team Pyra*, as they signed up to crowdfund a hobbyist consumer product (even if it's well suited for efficient work and even if the consumer base isn't massive for this price range), and not signed a contract to deliver X amount of devices capable of Y and Z by day DD.MM.YYYY

Of course it's be great to expect a release date, but if the date isn't really clear, I wish they don't say it rather than take a guess, miss it and then be put under great stress. (Like I'd treat my friends if I ordered something from them) I don't want the developers to be under pressure. Or rather, I don't want to put them under extra pressure myself, because if they are honest people they put themselves under enough already. And even though I don't know them personally, they do have credentials (the Pandora) which is enough for me to think of them as honest people.


*-by no means do I speak for them, of course- all of this is just how I perceive the general patience and attitude through the tone of the posts on this forum


Thanks for the thorough response :)
You are very welcome.
 
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To be clear, I've seen no one here asking for the Pyra to be rushed, just for ED to put out some news once there is some.

I guess it's not too surprising there's no news to report at the moment though, all of the hardware issues thus far identified have been fixed (from the sirring noise to the 4GB issue), HNS is mostly fettling kernels for his letux OS at the moment it seems to me (albeit trying to keep it running on the Pyra), and otherwise ED is mainly firing off emails that don't get replies or waiting in hope of international post.

I too wish ED a safe flight, and a productive journey.
 

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Well, one thing is clear. Something in the way of progress is going to happen in the next day or two. I just can't wait until the other company gets hold of the molds and to find out what colour case I may be getting on my Pyra :)
 

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As far as I understand, the case issue is not the bottleneck in the process at all.
The "mass production" of the PCBs is not scheduled yet and the only reason for that is more hardware "tweaking"
 

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The main hardware tweaking that needs to be done is case mould fettling though, which can only really be done by the new firm. I hope the old firm have produced their 500 clear cases so their contract can be settled neatly. The PCB order will likely be put in once we've got a schedule for the production of final cases.
 
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As much as I like my Pandora, I have to confess that I loved the wait for it just as much. It’s one of the main reasons I preordered the Pyra. It’s nice to have something to look forward to. Once we have it, all the possibilities come into focus. But for that brief while (or in this case not so brief), the possibilities seem endless.
 

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I know there's always been the policy of "When it's ready, it's ready", but do we have any broad updated best case and worst case (pun intended) scenarios in terms of the release?
I think You can make out the scenarios by reading news threads from the last couple of months; once in a while ED brings up a listing of components to be acquired (like the PCB's or case materials) and processes needed to be done (like testing this or that element), along with the time estimated for them (it was done at least once, listing lead times in weeks- look for this). Your best bet is, I think, to filter ED's posts in this forum section and go back day by day until You come upon such a listing, write the predicted times down, and then start reading again from there and make notes to these time estimates.
EvilDragon is a wonderful optimist, though. (Which is a good thing in a way, otherwise he might never have undertaken the Pyra project.) So his time estimates tend to be best best best possible case if nothing whatsoever goes wrong and all the other people and organisations involved do their bit promptly, proactively, and conscientiously. Unfortunately things do go wrong (more often than anyone could reasonably have expected), and other people and organisations don't always do their bit. So I (as a terrible pessimist) would say to approximately double EvilDragon's time estimates to get a best case estimate.
 

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EvilDragon is a wonderful optimist, though. (Which is a good thing in a way, otherwise he might never have undertaken the Pyra project.) So his time estimates tend to be best best best possible case if nothing whatsoever goes wrong and all the other people and organisations involved do their bit promptly, proactively, and conscientiously. Unfortunately things do go wrong (more often than anyone could reasonably have expected), and other people and organisations don't always do their bit. So I (as a terrible pessimist) would say to approximately double EvilDragon's time estimates to get a best case estimate.
So.... 4 months?
 

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As far as I understand, the case issue is not the bottleneck in the process at all.
The "mass production" of the PCBs is not scheduled yet and the only reason for that is more hardware "tweaking"
What hardware tweaks? The display backlight had been fixed and tested before christmas and everything else is done as well. We're only waiting for the cases. It is the current bottleneck.
 

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@EvilDragon on my CC Pandora, this Brightness Chip have some issues whit Brighness Controll, (ich kann weder mit den Tasten noch mit dem Button in der Taskleiste die Displaybeleuchtung ändern, wenn ich die Pandora zuklappe oder per Taste in Standbye versetze ist zwar das Bild auf dem Display weg, aber die Beleuchtung bleibt an,
nur wenn ich die Pandora komplett runterfahre ist das Licht aus,)
Is it the Same Brighness Chip on every Pandora ?? Or got i just Unlucky whit my Pandora PCB ??

So if whe have the Cases, maybe the last 2 Months (tm) are about to end ??
 
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