Update regarding the cases (and some other things)


EvilDragon said:
Probably to achieve different looks, etc.
I don't know myself, they haven't told me :)

I want matted cases, not glared once. However, looking at pictures of the matte GPD Win which have been made with smartphones, it also looks very glarey, so I guess this is just an effect there.

I'll make proper pictures once I receive them,
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Lets hope they dont get crushed again:'(
 
Nice pictures, all seems fine with the case production then...let´s hope all goes smooth from now on.
I like that black matted material.
 
Wow, for the first time I see some parts of casing which look really nice. Although clear cases may be nice looking too, for me (and it's only my personal opinion) it may give impression of one of these cheap Chinese "Tetris-100000-in-1" games sold in fairs. The plastic texture seems to be well chosen, it's a bit crispy and it's good as my Eee PC's Piano-like plastic usually collects fingerprints better than most forensic sample holders :).

So generally I am afraid of one thing. There is a shrinkage which looks a bit too big, it's mostly visible near hinges. In a photo of many cases it looks like this shrinkage is bigger and it's visible as round traces on surface. Have they fixed cooling-related issues which previously caused dimension-related problems?
This part near hinges will bear quite significant forces during opening/closing and with deformation related to shrinkage it may be displaced or damaged (I don't know what's material model of this plastic), I see cracks both in Type 1 (closing lid) and Type 3 (shearing if you hold Pyra like a book, from pressing screen).
 
@PCXT these are likely just quick samples straight out of the mold. Generally from what I remember from what was said during the Pandora case manufacturing, it takes a while to get the process going and the quality improves once the machine starts churning them out in bulk.
 
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Askarus said:
Nice cases.
I'm looking forward to crush some.
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Not a bad test to see how much it would take to actually crush one. We haven't seen the crushed ones so I just wonder if they break more easily now then was imagined (I remember someone standing on a sample and hitting it with a hammer?).
 
EvilDragon said:
Looks like I don't have to visit Greece after all.
Some pictures from today my contact made.
Most of the parts are still lying in water (to cool off), so he couldn't take pictures.

But here are some of the parts that are already out of the water, including the machines at work.
Beware of crappy smartphone quality :)

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They're also trying out a different material tomorrow.
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Can I get a case in Safety Yellow like the casing of the machine? That would be AWESOME.
 
TrashyMG said:
@PCXT these are likely just quick samples straight out of the mold. Generally from what I remember from what was said during the Pandora case manufacturing, it takes a while to get the process going and the quality improves once the machine starts churning them out in bulk.
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Quick update: Those marks are the reasons they're trying a different material, as different materials behave differently.
More pictures hopefully tomorrow (my contact didn't find the time to visit them today).
 
I personally wouldn't mind if the case company can't fix the problems with the used material. It might be that the cases will break at this significant points some time, or - with some luck - it's just an optical issue. As long the case lasts for two years or more at the hinges it's ok. I would order a new one from ED once the case breaks. Maybe at this time there exists a revision No. 2 of the case which would give the Pyra even more value.

Does anybody know how much the Pyra-Case alone will cost?
 
tarator said:
I personally wouldn't mind if the case company can't fix the problems with the used material. It might be that the cases will break at this significant points some time, or - with some luck - it's just an optical issue. As long the case lasts for two years or more at the hinges it's ok. I would order a new one from ED once the case breaks. Maybe at this time there exists a revision No. 2 of the case which would give the Pyra even more value.
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I have to disagree with that. As much as I dislike how long the case is taking to get to production quality, I'd much rather see quality cases than something which will crack easily or look cheap. When showing off a unit the case is what will make the first impression, and I'm sure the Pandora's case didn't do it any favours in that regard. If people perceive the unit as being of low quality, they'll be much less willing to shell out hundreds of dollars (or Euro as the case may be) for it, and the case quality is the first thing anyone doing an unboxing video is going to be showing off.

-Neelix
 
Neelix said:
...When showing off a unit the case is what will make the first impression, and I'm sure the Pandora's case didn't do it any favours in that regard. If people perceive the unit as being of low quality, they'll be much less willing to shell out hundreds of dollars ...
-Neelix
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I get your point and fully agree! First impression of a device is really important. After following this community for almost a year, the first impression isn't important for me anymore. I already got my "first impression" through the way the project is handled. I know the Pyra has it's qualities.

Imagine how awesome it would be if you could say to your fellas: "Yeah, looks cheap..." but then you throw your Pyra on the dirty floor and dance on it and it still doesn't have any cracks. :)
 
EvilDragon said:
Quick update: Those marks are the reasons they're trying a different material, as different materials behave differently.
More pictures hopefully tomorrow (my contact didn't find the time to visit them today).
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Thank you @EvilDragon! Hope they can fix that issue and also hope to see more photos tomorrow.
 
tarator said:
Imagine how awesome it would be if you could say to your fellas: "Yeah, looks cheap..." but then you throw your Pyra on the dirty floor and dance on it and it still doesn't have any cracks. :)
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Cute, but honestly I'd rather have them marvelling at the build quality than have to be convinced of it. :p

-Neelix
 
TeDaDeS said:
I just wonder if they break more easily now then was imagined (I remember someone standing on a sample and hitting it with a hammer?).
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FWIW, that wasn't a pyra part - that was a bulbous part (perhaps mounting/packing material) which I assume was significantly thicker than the Pyra can afford to be. The Pyra case should definitely be more sturdy than the Pandora's ABS? case, and besides design improvements should make it less likely to fail - mine's gone on the corner where I had to stress it to get the case apart, and on the back of the hinge where the Pandora has clips, making the side that receives the clips thinner. The Pyra will simply have a screw near the middle of the hinge keeping that all together.
 
Neelix said:
Are you sure about that? The shoulder buttons don't work on those cases. ;)

-Neelix
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As bad it it may sound, yeah I might. I really don't like black systems, and I would think pretty hard on taking a defective unit over a 100% working one that is black. LOL

Chris
 
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