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[Klumpen]

I agree, but I would never purchase something without at least reading the product description. Usually I do a ton of research first, even for cheap things (I did many hours of research over the course of 3 weeks on something that only cost me $30, but I wanted to make sure it was the one I wanted...after deciding on one I finally confirmed it is a limited edition, so I was a bit lucky it didn't sell out while comparing other things and doing all my reading).

I would never drop hundreds of dollars on something without looking through the page I was purchasing on. If you do, it is your own fault for missing the bold text at the top of the description. If anyone is misleading potential buyers it is those spreading bad info without bothering to take a few minutes to fact check. More time was probably spent aligning the picture on the page...

Imho someone who is buying stuff for 330€ so casually that he isn't even reading the description can afford a lot more than most of us probably could.

 

[rygD]

I wonder if that would be the sort of person that would still complain that the price for the downpayment was not the total price, and they weren't aware of that because it wasn't worth the money they would lose in time spent to read the description. (Maybe that will make as much sense to others as it did to me.)

 

[Butterkeks]

I wonder if that would be the sort of person that would still complain that the price for the downpayment was not the total price, and they weren't aware of that because it wasn't worth the money they would lose in time spent to read the description. (Maybe that will make as much sense to others as it did to me.)

Probably yes, considering this:

Also, Golem.de (a huge tech news website in Germany) made a review of the GPD XD.
Before that, out of 20 sold units, I had about 1 returned to me.
After the review, sales tripled, but returns increased a LOT more. Now out of 20 sold units, I have about 5 returns.
That value is five times higher.

 

[spud42]

If leaving things out isn't wrong then the price wasn't wrong, and that was my point (only flipped around). They got part of the price correct, just like they got part of the features and specs correct. They did leave out (at least) a space and a word, though, so maybe they like doing this sort of thing for their readers.

are you being obtuse intentionally? leaving the description of a feature out of an article is not the same as stating a price that is wrong.

 

[rygD]

are you being obtuse intentionally? leaving the description of a feature out of an article is not the same as stating a price that is wrong.

What is the problem with a full specs list? Sure, I am the obtuse one, not the person that threw that together. An omission of any of the basic relevant information is an inaccurate description, just as with the missing word "DOWNPAYMENT", but, as I mentioned, they can't even get the basic structure of the paragraph correct, so it is just as likely that leaving that out was another oopsy.

Perhaps I am a fool for expecting a section of a magazine intended to briefly cover what something is and how it can be used to actually do that accurately, in addition to getting the pricing info correct (and knowing how to use the language it was typed in).

Again, the price isn't wrong, it is incomplete.

 

[Grench]

I know the article says something about being the same size as a Gameboy, but there were a lot of game boys. The renders being used for advertising make it difficult to understand the scale. Maybe render-place an SD card somewhat askew on top of the keyboard or a Euro coin on-edge next to the unit?

 

[Silent-Hunter]

Or what about a ruler?

Don't use a coin, some people have never seen a Euro coin and don't know what size it is.

 

[Djoga'Ro]

@Silent-Hunter They could search for pics with things, they know, next to Euro coins to get an idea.

 

[rygD]

Or what about a ruler?

Don't use a coin, some people have never seen a Euro coin and don't know what size it is.

I have one sitting on my keyboard that I don't remember how I got. Maybe it is from the last time I was in Germany or Ireland (but it says it is Spanish, which I guess might make sense if I got it in an airport or something).

@Silent-Hunter They could search for pics with things, they know, next to Euro coins to get an idea.

Wouldn't a ruler be easier and more clear for everyone?

 

[Klumpen]

I have one sitting on my keyboard that I don't remember how I got. Maybe it is from the last time I was in Germany or Ireland (but it says it is Spanish, which I guess might make sense if I got it in an airport or something).
Wouldn't a ruler be easier and more clear for everyone?

Have you guys finally reached the stage of civilisation where one uses mm/cm/m/km instead of all the feet/inch/miles bullcrap?
If yes, a ruler would be the way to go.

 

[Silent-Hunter]

Have you guys finally reached the stage of civilisation where one uses mm/cm/m/km instead of all the feet/inch/miles bullcrap?
If yes, a ruler would be the way to go.

Unfortunately not. I use metric when possible, but not in public. But rulers usually have metric and English units.

 

[rygD]

Have you guys finally reached the stage of civilisation where one uses mm/cm/m/km instead of all the feet/inch/miles bullcrap?
If yes, a ruler would be the way to go.

They have been in use here my entire life, and are present on most normal rulers. Metric isn't as popular, but it is still fairly common. I was thinking the ruler would be useful for people in other places where Euro coins aren't popular, not just here (plus you can quickly convert measurements, which I do several times a week).

 

[Grench]

So - what we need is a render of the Pyra with a benchmark measuring unit that is ubiquitous worldwide and trans-cultural. Something so common that everyone will instantly know and be able to mentally scale the image. A US currency bill might work - but it's too two dimensional and lacks the international flair. The dimensions of a soda can differ from region to region - so that is probably out. Maybe set the Pyra on a "standard" keyboard? No - wait - no need to bring up keyboards. How about a Euro and a quarter and an SD card side by side leaned up against the front edge of the Pyra?

 

[ible]

or a pair of big headphones.

 

[Yoyobuae]

or some popcorn.

 

[rygD]

Or a ruler.
[doublepost=1467396741,1467396518][/doublepost]Actually, is the brick Game Boy ubiquitous enough? There is already a picture of them together.

 

[Grench]

Or a ruler.
[doublepost=1467396741,1467396518][/doublepost]Actually, is the brick Game Boy ubiquitous enough? There is already a picture of them together.

The fact that you have to specify which Game Boy you're comparing to doesn't work well. There were, from what I can tell, at least 7 physically different boxes - some with many colors - that were sold under the label 'Game Boy'. Despite roughly 200 million of them selling worldwide I've only seen 2-3 in passing and never owned one.

Frankly a ruler works from an intelectual and engineering perspective but not so much for a general perception basis. Most people don't use one on a daily basis anymore. Give somone a blank sheet of paper and ask them to freehand draw two dots 139 mm or 5.47 inches apart. Then ask them to draw a Quarter (for US) or a Euro sized circle. I'm betting that the coin will be a more accurate representation as they can readilly recall a mental picture and feel of that item.

Whether using Quarters or Euros, the Pyra is under 6 coins wide, less than 4 coins deep and about 1 1/3 coins tall with the lid closed. It's a short cut to mental proportion without having to think.

 

[Klumpen]

I guess that most people able to afford a Pyra know/had/have the original GameBoy.

 

[rygD]

The fact that you have to specify which Game Boy you're comparing to doesn't work well. There were, from what I can tell, at least 7 physically different boxes - some with many colors - that were sold under the label 'Game Boy'. Despite roughly 200 million of them selling worldwide I've only seen 2-3 in passing and never owned one.

If you can't tell which one it is by seeing it then you would not be likely to get it confused for a coherent model. Fair enough, though, not popular enough.

Frankly a ruler works from an intelectual and engineering perspective but not so much for a general perception basis.

If a standard measuring device isn't a sufficient tool to give someone a general idea of the size those people probably shouldn't be bothering with a Pyra. They don't need to know the exact size with the ruler. Just as with a coin, it is to give a general idea. If they need to know the size down to the mm they should be reading the product page, and they will probably have a measuring device handy or the precision is irrelevant. Even if they don't use a ruler daily they can run into the other room and grab one, or check the dimensions of something they do use daily and get a rough idea of how close it is in size. A quarter ifs about an inch across, so I don't see how using a coin is better than a ruler (and do normal people even use coins anymore? I collect them, so I mess with a variety regularly, and they are often ones that are not commonly circulated today.)

Simply put, a coin is not generally used for measuring the size of something, a ruler is. A hand is pretty common, but you run into the same size variation issue as with coins that are not common in certain places. Still, hands will give you a rough size as long as they are somewhat average.

Anyway, it doesn't matter, if someone is willing to go through the trouble of making a picture they can use whatever they want to show size. When you get yours you can put all the US money around it that you want, and take pictures to help those that aren't familiar with rulers. When I get mine I will use it.

 

[Silent-Hunter]

At least SD cards are a standard size.