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Well, I don't oppose your idea to clarify further, but I don't think I'm any bright and I never got confused about prices. In any case a journalist job is to read the wall of text before reporting on it.
If a reporter can't read he can't write and if he can't write he's no reporter.
Btw, for me pages without walls of text are usually less clear. I'm never sure my assumptions about what is not said are like the author's so I prefer everything explicit, black on white (or anything readable, I don't want to start another color "war", but the shop has, or had, one page that is not readable due to the text and background colors, for me that's worse than the price placement or price blurbs).
 
Yep, more info is always better when trying to buy something, and, like I said, it is also a good idea to try to get outside info. In this case, several outside sources are not mentioning that it is a downpayment.

It seems like being a journalist is super easy. You just write whatever you want, and don't bother making sure you have your shit straight. Maybe I should consider a career change.
 
Also , I forgot to mention one important additional thing before. Even if you did see the final price area in the wall of text (missing the downpayment bit before that section). And lets take the standard addition for example. If you read the final price of the standard model as 500 Euro in the wall of text, then scrolled down to see the Pre-order page of the standard model say 330 Euro, it's still very easy to think it's 330 Euro. Why?. Because it said the final price will be 500 Euro in the final prices area of the wall of text. And when you see the pre-order price area , it says 330 Euro. The thing here , is that people expect Pre-order prices to be lower than final prices - it's the incentive of a pre-order in many cases (not all) . So it makes perfect sense to think ah, final price is 500 Euro, but I can pre-order it now for 330 Euro. Great.

Same thing on the GPD WIN Indiegogo , Final price $499 (which was BS), pre-order price $299. See what I mean. That's normal
 
Which one? As you pointed out, they omitted a lot of significant info, including that the price they listed is the downpayment. At least It is some additional coverage.

BTW, what is that magazine about?

The July edition of Australian Personal Computer magazine.

i only pointed out the price. the rest was left out not wrong. this is basically a section of up coming tech stuff that they think you would be interested in. It is a quick short piece so i dont blame them for not being able to cover the Pyra in detail. There is usually 5 or 6 of these pieces on a two page spread.
 
The July edition of Australian Personal Computer magazine.

i only pointed out the price. the rest was left out not wrong. this is basically a section of up coming tech stuff that they think you would be interested in. It is a quick short piece so i dont blame them for not being able to cover the Pyra in detail. There is usually 5 or 6 of these pieces on a two page spread.

Shit , I used to read that magazine when I was a kid when it launched,. Lets see when that was. Oh, ok, nothing to see here, move on :$
 
The July edition of Australian Personal Computer magazine.

i only pointed out the price. the rest was left out not wrong. this is basically a section of up coming tech stuff that they think you would be interested in. It is a quick short piece so i dont blame them for not being able to cover the Pyra in detail. There is usually 5 or 6 of these pieces on a two page spread.
If leaving things out isn't wrong then the price wasn't wrong, and that was my point (only flipped around). They got part of the price correct, just like they got part of the features and specs correct. They did leave out (at least) a space and a word, though, so maybe they like doing this sort of thing for their readers.
 
I agree, but I would never purchase something without at least reading the product description. Usually I do a ton of research first, even for cheap things (I did many hours of research over the course of 3 weeks on something that only cost me $30, but I wanted to make sure it was the one I wanted...after deciding on one I finally confirmed it is a limited edition, so I was a bit lucky it didn't sell out while comparing other things and doing all my reading).

I would never drop hundreds of dollars on something without looking through the page I was purchasing on. If you do, it is your own fault for missing the bold text at the top of the description. If anyone is misleading potential buyers it is those spreading bad info without bothering to take a few minutes to fact check. More time was probably spent aligning the picture on the page...

Imho someone who is buying stuff for 330€ so casually that he isn't even reading the description can afford a lot more than most of us probably could.
 
I wonder if that would be the sort of person that would still complain that the price for the downpayment was not the total price, and they weren't aware of that because it wasn't worth the money they would lose in time spent to read the description. (Maybe that will make as much sense to others as it did to me.)
 
I wonder if that would be the sort of person that would still complain that the price for the downpayment was not the total price, and they weren't aware of that because it wasn't worth the money they would lose in time spent to read the description. (Maybe that will make as much sense to others as it did to me.)
Probably yes, considering this:

Also, Golem.de (a huge tech news website in Germany) made a review of the GPD XD.
Before that, out of 20 sold units, I had about 1 returned to me.
After the review, sales tripled, but returns increased a LOT more. Now out of 20 sold units, I have about 5 returns.
That value is five times higher.
 
If leaving things out isn't wrong then the price wasn't wrong, and that was my point (only flipped around). They got part of the price correct, just like they got part of the features and specs correct. They did leave out (at least) a space and a word, though, so maybe they like doing this sort of thing for their readers.
are you being obtuse intentionally? leaving the description of a feature out of an article is not the same as stating a price that is wrong.
 
are you being obtuse intentionally? leaving the description of a feature out of an article is not the same as stating a price that is wrong.
What is the problem with a full specs list? Sure, I am the obtuse one, not the person that threw that together. An omission of any of the basic relevant information is an inaccurate description, just as with the missing word "DOWNPAYMENT", but, as I mentioned, they can't even get the basic structure of the paragraph correct, so it is just as likely that leaving that out was another oopsy.

Perhaps I am a fool for expecting a section of a magazine intended to briefly cover what something is and how it can be used to actually do that accurately, in addition to getting the pricing info correct (and knowing how to use the language it was typed in).

Again, the price isn't wrong, it is incomplete.
 
I know the article says something about being the same size as a Gameboy, but there were a lot of game boys. The renders being used for advertising make it difficult to understand the scale. Maybe render-place an SD card somewhat askew on top of the keyboard or a Euro coin on-edge next to the unit?
 
Or what about a ruler?

Don't use a coin, some people have never seen a Euro coin and don't know what size it is.
 
Or what about a ruler?

Don't use a coin, some people have never seen a Euro coin and don't know what size it is.
I have one sitting on my keyboard that I don't remember how I got. Maybe it is from the last time I was in Germany or Ireland (but it says it is Spanish, which I guess might make sense if I got it in an airport or something).

@Silent-Hunter They could search for pics with things, they know, next to Euro coins to get an idea. :)
Wouldn't a ruler be easier and more clear for everyone?
 
I have one sitting on my keyboard that I don't remember how I got. Maybe it is from the last time I was in Germany or Ireland (but it says it is Spanish, which I guess might make sense if I got it in an airport or something).
Wouldn't a ruler be easier and more clear for everyone?
Have you guys finally reached the stage of civilisation where one uses mm/cm/m/km instead of all the feet/inch/miles bullcrap? :p
If yes, a ruler would be the way to go.
 
Have you guys finally reached the stage of civilisation where one uses mm/cm/m/km instead of all the feet/inch/miles bullcrap? :p
If yes, a ruler would be the way to go.
Unfortunately not. I use metric when possible, but not in public. But rulers usually have metric and English units.
 
Have you guys finally reached the stage of civilisation where one uses mm/cm/m/km instead of all the feet/inch/miles bullcrap? :p
If yes, a ruler would be the way to go.
They have been in use here my entire life, and are present on most normal rulers. Metric isn't as popular, but it is still fairly common. I was thinking the ruler would be useful for people in other places where Euro coins aren't popular, not just here (plus you can quickly convert measurements, which I do several times a week).
 
So - what we need is a render of the Pyra with a benchmark measuring unit that is ubiquitous worldwide and trans-cultural. Something so common that everyone will instantly know and be able to mentally scale the image. A US currency bill might work - but it's too two dimensional and lacks the international flair. The dimensions of a soda can differ from region to region - so that is probably out. Maybe set the Pyra on a "standard" keyboard? No - wait - no need to bring up keyboards. How about a Euro and a quarter and an SD card side by side leaned up against the front edge of the Pyra?
 
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