Preorders Have Started. (Previously named starts in two hours)


My son says he will ask for a Pyra this Xmas, so that we can play together ...
I think it'll be a long time until Pyra2Pyra multiplayer stuff is possible, if at all (never really happened on Pandora).
Connecting a gamepad via USB to the Pyra and this one to a screen via HDMI to play stuff together shouldn't be a problem for long though.
Does someone know if Pyra works as an HID at release? If yes, you could use a second Pyra as the controller although this wouldn't be very cost efficient, you could also use a Pandora for this btw.
 
My kids, should I have some one day, shall have it better than me. I'd take away there toys and leave 'em with something like a rpi, some peripherals, a LFS CD and book, and a dictionary. Then I lock 'em in with the doorlock being accessable over eithernet. If they make it, I'll be proud. Otherwise I'll need to procreate anew.
Awesome. I wish someone had given me a computer as a kid, and forcing me to learn how to use it properly at an early age would have helped me out a bunch. In my first class using computers we made a cartoon.

While Americans developed a pen that could write in space, Russians used a pencil
This whole story is bullshit.
 
Awesome. I wish someone had given me a computer as a kid, and forcing me to learn how to use it properly at an early age would have helped me out a bunch. In my first class using computers we made a cartoon.
Similar for me. I did have a Commodore 64 and a fat book on programing with that and did that a bit. Then I got a 386 PC with DOS and Win 3.11 and had no clue how to do some programming with this. I also had no one to ask and ended up just playing games on it like everyone else. I wish someone would have shown me Linux and given me some books on programming with C.
[doublepost=1464449605,1464449327][/doublepost]I wouldn't necessarily want my kids to become great computer scientists, but when I see what problems our costumers call for, I'd say learning some programming is essential today like learning to read and write and learning math is.
 
Similar for me. I did have a Commodore 64 and a fat book on programing with that and did that a bit. Then I got a 386 PC with DOS and Win 3.11 and had no clue how to do some programming with this. I also had no one to ask and ended up just playing games on it like everyone else. I wish someone would have shown me Linux and given me some books on programming with C.
[doublepost=1464449605,1464449327][/doublepost]I wouldn't necessarily want my kids to become great computer scientists, but when I see what problems our costumers call for, I'd say learning some programming is essential today like learning to read and write and learning math is.

There was QBASIC there :) I had no clues how to program with it (or at all), but I started hacking blindly GORILLAZ and NIBBLES, the two games that were there :D
 
Re: The russians using pencils in space
This whole story is bullshit.
Well, bullshit is a bit harsh, but I believe the story to be apocryphal. The graphite powder released when you use a pencil turns out to not be great news for circuit boards and computers in a confined space without gravity. Perhaps lead pencils don't powder so easily, but I've never knowingly used one of those so I'm unsure.

Regarding BASIC, I recently downloaded Brandy since it's able to load tokenised BBC BASIC programmes, and I could validate my BBC Micro disc unpacker. It's quite neat, but doesn't support the graphics primitives on anything but RISC OS.

I found the Python tutorial to be very reminiscent of old 'Learn BASIC' books, but it does lack the graphics and sound primitives that were such immediate payback when messing about as a youngster.

Actually RISC OS using real BBC BASIC might not be a bad place to start. It's probably the last actively maintained microcomputer OS (possibly Haiku is also there), and eminently hackable, and runs rather smartly on a Raspberry Pi or even a Pandora apparently. There's no circle command in BBC BASIC, so that was my first introduction to trigonometric functions (you can also do it using Pythagoras' theorem):
10 CENTREX=640
20 CENTREY=512
30 RADIUS=200
40 MOVE CENTREX, CENTREY+RADIUS
50 FOR A=0 to 3.14159 STEP 0.1
60 DRAW CENTREX+RADIUS*SIN(A), CENTREY+RADIUS*COS(A)
70 NEXT
(code untested)
 
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Yeah, my first ARM coding was in BBC BASIC assembler on an Archimedes!

Edit: For any chance for my code to work, you'll need to be in a graphical mode first. Try adding:
5 MODE 1
 
The 28th 24 hours of pre-orders is now up.

We got :

350 Pre-orders the first 24 hours (350)
79 Pre-orders in the second 24 hours. (429)
49 Pre-orders in the third 24 hours (478) (Some double up Pre-orders were removed though)
29 Pre-orders in the fourth 24 hours (507)
18 Pre-orders in the fifth 24 hours (525)
26 Pre-orders in the sixth 24 hours (551)
12 Pre-orders in the seventh 24 hours (563)
10 Pre-orders in the eight 24 hours (573)
17 Pre-orders in the ninth 24 hours (590)
11 Pre-orders in the tenth 24 hours (601)
9 Pre-orders in the eleventh 24 hours (610) - Note , the number would have been higher, however a number of duplicate orders were removed.
11 Pre-orders in the 12th 24 hours (621)
8 Pre-orders in the 13th 24 hours (629)
16 Pre-orders in the 14th 24 hours (645)
8 Pre-orders in the 15th 24 hours (653) - Adjusted
12 Pre-orders in the 16th 24 hours (665)
10 Pre-orders in the 17th 24 hours (675)
7 Pre-orders in the 18th 24 hours (682)
5 Pre-orders in the 19th 24 hours (687)
8 Pre-orders in the 20th 24 hours (695)
3 Pre-orders in the 21st 24 hours (698)
5 Pre-orders in the 22nd 24 hours (703)
3 Pre-orders in the 23rd 24 hours (706)
4 Pre-orders in the 24th 24 hours (710)
2 Pre-orders in the 25th 24 hours (712)
4 Pre-orders in the 26th 24 hours (716)
5 Pre-orders in the 27th 24 hours (721)
5 Pre-orders in the 28th 24 hours (726)

Daily average over the last 7 days was 4 Pre-orders a day


Note: Daily figures also include converted Pre Pre-orders. As such , actual new pre-orders would be a little less than quoted figures.
 
I think it'll be a long time until Pyra2Pyra multiplayer stuff is possible, if at all (never really happened on Pandora).
Connecting a gamepad via USB to the Pyra and this one to a screen via HDMI to play stuff together shouldn't be a problem for long though.
Does someone know if Pyra works as an HID at release? If yes, you could use a second Pyra as the controller although this wouldn't be very cost efficient, you could also use a Pandora for this btw.

what about Hase? it's not direct pyra2pyra, but it's mediated through a server...
 
Re: The russians using pencils in space

Well, bullshit is a bit harsh, but I believe the story to be apocryphal. The graphite powder released when you use a pencil turns out to not be great news for circuit boards and computers in a confined space without gravity. Perhaps lead pencils don't powder so easily, but I've never knowingly used one of those so I'm unsure.
@rygD: It is an Urban legend only? Did not know that.
Both space programs used pencils (possibly grease pencils). Space pens were created by an independent company (possibly with additional funding from the government). I don't remember what happened after that. I am probably leaving a bunch of things out.
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There was no government funding to create the pen. Both space programs switched over to using it pretty quickly.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-nasa-spen/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Pen#Uses_in_the_U.S._and_Russian_space_programs
 
The 29th 24 hours of pre-orders is now up.

We got :

350 Pre-orders the first 24 hours (350)
79 Pre-orders in the second 24 hours. (429)
49 Pre-orders in the third 24 hours (478) (Some double up Pre-orders were removed though)
29 Pre-orders in the fourth 24 hours (507)
18 Pre-orders in the fifth 24 hours (525)
26 Pre-orders in the sixth 24 hours (551)
12 Pre-orders in the seventh 24 hours (563)
10 Pre-orders in the eight 24 hours (573)
17 Pre-orders in the ninth 24 hours (590)
11 Pre-orders in the tenth 24 hours (601)
9 Pre-orders in the eleventh 24 hours (610) - Note , the number would have been higher, however a number of duplicate orders were removed.
11 Pre-orders in the 12th 24 hours (621)
8 Pre-orders in the 13th 24 hours (629)
16 Pre-orders in the 14th 24 hours (645)
8 Pre-orders in the 15th 24 hours (653) - Adjusted
12 Pre-orders in the 16th 24 hours (665)
10 Pre-orders in the 17th 24 hours (675)
7 Pre-orders in the 18th 24 hours (682)
5 Pre-orders in the 19th 24 hours (687)
8 Pre-orders in the 20th 24 hours (695)
3 Pre-orders in the 21st 24 hours (698)
5 Pre-orders in the 22nd 24 hours (703)
3 Pre-orders in the 23rd 24 hours (706)
4 Pre-orders in the 24th 24 hours (710)
2 Pre-orders in the 25th 24 hours (712)
4 Pre-orders in the 26th 24 hours (716)
5 Pre-orders in the 27th 24 hours (721)
5 Pre-orders in the 28th 24 hours (726)
3 Pre-orders in the 29th 24 hours (729)

Daily average over the last 7 days was 3.71 Pre-orders a day


Note: Daily figures also include converted Pre Pre-orders. As such , actual new pre-orders would be a little less than quoted figures.
 
The 30th 24 hours of pre-orders is now up.

We got :

350 Pre-orders the first 24 hours (350)
79 Pre-orders in the second 24 hours. (429)
49 Pre-orders in the third 24 hours (478) (Some double up Pre-orders were removed though)
29 Pre-orders in the fourth 24 hours (507)
18 Pre-orders in the fifth 24 hours (525)
26 Pre-orders in the sixth 24 hours (551)
12 Pre-orders in the seventh 24 hours (563)
10 Pre-orders in the eight 24 hours (573)
17 Pre-orders in the ninth 24 hours (590)
11 Pre-orders in the tenth 24 hours (601)
9 Pre-orders in the eleventh 24 hours (610) - Note , the number would have been higher, however a number of duplicate orders were removed.
11 Pre-orders in the 12th 24 hours (621)
8 Pre-orders in the 13th 24 hours (629)
16 Pre-orders in the 14th 24 hours (645)
8 Pre-orders in the 15th 24 hours (653) - Adjusted
12 Pre-orders in the 16th 24 hours (665)
10 Pre-orders in the 17th 24 hours (675)
7 Pre-orders in the 18th 24 hours (682)
5 Pre-orders in the 19th 24 hours (687)
8 Pre-orders in the 20th 24 hours (695)
3 Pre-orders in the 21st 24 hours (698)
5 Pre-orders in the 22nd 24 hours (703)
3 Pre-orders in the 23rd 24 hours (706)
4 Pre-orders in the 24th 24 hours (710)
2 Pre-orders in the 25th 24 hours (712)
4 Pre-orders in the 26th 24 hours (716)
5 Pre-orders in the 27th 24 hours (721)
5 Pre-orders in the 28th 24 hours (726)
3 Pre-orders in the 29th 24 hours (729)
6 Pre-orders in the 30th 24 hours (735)

Daily average over the last 7 days was 4.14 Pre-orders a day


Note: Daily figures also include converted Pre Pre-orders. As such , actual new pre-orders would be a little less than quoted figures.
 
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FWIW, that 736th preorder was made just after midnight, German time. But it shouldn't affect the averages much either way. Thanks for your work!

Thanks, I adjusted the figures.


So we are at the 30 day mark and from that period have gotten 735 pre-orders (diluted a little with the converted pre-preorders)

Worthless comparison , but as a guide the GPD WIN managed 1750 orders in 60 days. The way things are going at around 4 pre-orders a day, the PYRA will have about 855 or so pre-orders at that same 60 day mark.


Probably get a bump in sales also after the fully operational prototype is shown in a proper video. But, I fully suspect a lot of people are waiting on the Pyra to release before jumping in, so we should get a number of sales at that point. For example, a poll was done on Dingoonity for the WIN, it showed over 50% of people were waiting on it to be released and to view reviews before jumping in or not. So there is probably a lot of people waiting I suspect for the Pyra also.
 
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I don't like gpd product I got. Hard as hell to update and it crashes all the time. Can't wait for the pyra.
 
vcoleiro1: Was that necessary? I told you where to check. Do that next time or the bunny gets it!
 
@Lightkey

Somehow I missed that link in your post a few pages back. I will use it from now on.

On a different note, I'm surprised ED hasn't removed the 2GB versions of the Pyra yet. There's no point keeping them there.
 
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