Preorders Have Started. (Previously named starts in two hours)


I don't mind waiting one more month if the final price is going to be extra high due to the low volume...
 
I don't think ED would be able to do that. All the pre-order down-payments have been taken on the basis that the finished product would be at a specific price point. (+VAT (if applicable) + Shipping)

That said, I'm under the impression that there's a bit more to be done before ED can actually start production, (especially considering that not all the prototype units have been sent out for testing and development yet) so he can't just start it on the basis of having reached some magic number of pre-orders unless that other stuff is completed in the meantime.

-Neelix
 
I suspect that there is another way to consider this too. There is no reason to shut off pre-ordering when production begins. I.e. if we've already met the pre-order numbers needed to produce 1000 units (or whatever), continued pre-orders up to whatever those production quantities are would then start funding the next batch even though they could get a unit in the first batch.

Pre-orders beyond the first batch's production numbers would then naturally flow into a subsequent batch - which would be relatively rapid as everything would already be in place.

The only reason I can see to end pre-orders is if there is a reason to cap/end production. As pre-orders roll over 750+, the production should be more or less self-sustaining as long as the orders continue to come in - at least until a time when production outpaces orders then he can have them 'in stock' which would appeal to yet another segment of the audience.

So - ED may have already ordered long lead time parts. We may just be lacking news - which makes me think that we're lacking new news. @EvilDragon - Milestones have been crossed on the pre-orders. Can we have an update?
 
The way I read this post - https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/current-statistics-and-some-predictions.77437/ - is that he needs between 844-950 preorders to have the money to build 1000. Production was already self-sustaining as he wrote that post, in that he had the money to build the orders at that time. I reckon he still needs at least 94 orders to be able to do a standard production of 1000 units, so nothing has changed at 750.

But yeah, more news is always welcome, if there's anything at all worth reporting. Even better would be a cool new video, but I guess we can't have everything. Meanwhile, the preorders are still increasing, so I guess there's no desperate need for good news just yet.
 
The 33rd 24 hours of pre-orders is now up.

We got :

350 Pre-orders the first 24 hours (350)
79 Pre-orders in the second 24 hours. (429)
49 Pre-orders in the third 24 hours (478) (Some double up Pre-orders were removed though)
29 Pre-orders in the fourth 24 hours (507)
18 Pre-orders in the fifth 24 hours (525)
26 Pre-orders in the sixth 24 hours (551)
12 Pre-orders in the seventh 24 hours (563)
10 Pre-orders in the eight 24 hours (573)
17 Pre-orders in the ninth 24 hours (590)
11 Pre-orders in the tenth 24 hours (601)
9 Pre-orders in the eleventh 24 hours (610) - Note , the number would have been higher, however a number of duplicate orders were removed.
11 Pre-orders in the 12th 24 hours (621)
8 Pre-orders in the 13th 24 hours (629)
16 Pre-orders in the 14th 24 hours (645)
8 Pre-orders in the 15th 24 hours (653) - Adjusted
12 Pre-orders in the 16th 24 hours (665)
10 Pre-orders in the 17th 24 hours (675)
7 Pre-orders in the 18th 24 hours (682)
5 Pre-orders in the 19th 24 hours (687)
8 Pre-orders in the 20th 24 hours (695)
3 Pre-orders in the 21st 24 hours (698)
5 Pre-orders in the 22nd 24 hours (703)
3 Pre-orders in the 23rd 24 hours (706)
4 Pre-orders in the 24th 24 hours (710)
2 Pre-orders in the 25th 24 hours (712)
4 Pre-orders in the 26th 24 hours (716)
5 Pre-orders in the 27th 24 hours (721)
5 Pre-orders in the 28th 24 hours (726)
3 Pre-orders in the 29th 24 hours (729)
6 Pre-orders in the 30th 24 hours (735)
5 Pre-orders in the 31st 24 hours (740)
4 Pre-orders in the 32nd 24 hours (744)
6 Pre-orders in the 33rd 24 hours (750)

Daily average over the last 7 days was 4.86 Pre-orders a day


Note: Daily figures also include converted Pre Pre-orders. As such , actual new pre-orders would be a little less than quoted figures.
 
I am a bit surprised preorders have continued at such a steady pace. I know others probably view things a little differently, based on some reactions. If we have a week with none it might be time to consider what to do. In the mean time everyone can continue a grassroots effort to spread the word.
 
I guess the current preorder growth is on the lower side of the statistical average - probably soneone has a model for that. But just from a rough estimate of around 5000 Pandora Owners checking the site about once a week, and around 500 first-response Pyra adopters talking nonstop about it, reaching 3-5 people every day - that sounds about normal. Either by having old crowd members stumble over the news, spreading the word among friends and neighbors, or just plain luck - it's most probably in the 0,1%-0,01% rule of thumb margin. It would be an interesting excercise to hold that assumption against a site visitor counter...

But I digress - what I wanted to say was: There are only so many old crowd people and friends to talk to (I tried with 3 and didn't convince them yet)......
 
The 34th 24 hours of pre-orders is now up.

We got :

350 Pre-orders the first 24 hours (350)
79 Pre-orders in the second 24 hours. (429)
49 Pre-orders in the third 24 hours (478) (Some double up Pre-orders were removed though)
29 Pre-orders in the fourth 24 hours (507)
18 Pre-orders in the fifth 24 hours (525)
26 Pre-orders in the sixth 24 hours (551)
12 Pre-orders in the seventh 24 hours (563)
10 Pre-orders in the eight 24 hours (573)
17 Pre-orders in the ninth 24 hours (590)
11 Pre-orders in the tenth 24 hours (601)
9 Pre-orders in the eleventh 24 hours (610) - Note , the number would have been higher, however a number of duplicate orders were removed.
11 Pre-orders in the 12th 24 hours (621)
8 Pre-orders in the 13th 24 hours (629)
16 Pre-orders in the 14th 24 hours (645)
8 Pre-orders in the 15th 24 hours (653) - Adjusted
12 Pre-orders in the 16th 24 hours (665)
10 Pre-orders in the 17th 24 hours (675)
7 Pre-orders in the 18th 24 hours (682)
5 Pre-orders in the 19th 24 hours (687)
8 Pre-orders in the 20th 24 hours (695)
3 Pre-orders in the 21st 24 hours (698)
5 Pre-orders in the 22nd 24 hours (703)
3 Pre-orders in the 23rd 24 hours (706)
4 Pre-orders in the 24th 24 hours (710)
2 Pre-orders in the 25th 24 hours (712)
4 Pre-orders in the 26th 24 hours (716)
5 Pre-orders in the 27th 24 hours (721)
5 Pre-orders in the 28th 24 hours (726)
3 Pre-orders in the 29th 24 hours (729)
6 Pre-orders in the 30th 24 hours (735)
5 Pre-orders in the 31st 24 hours (740)
4 Pre-orders in the 32nd 24 hours (744)
6 Pre-orders in the 33rd 24 hours (750)
4 Pre-orders in the 34th 24 hours (754)

Daily average over the last 7 days was 4.71 Pre-orders a day


Note: Daily figures also include converted Pre Pre-orders. As such , actual new pre-orders would be a little less than quoted figures.
 
and didn't convince them yet
Yeah, had the same. There is an intrinsic aversion to German and French in the Netherlands, so just a glance at the keyboard puts them off. Could be a nationalistic trait, shared with all other countries. And also: Most of us are getting blind, thus, requiring a bigger monitor, not the small tiny what-cha-ma-callit.
Pandora was a bit more international, having Yen/Yuan Pound Dollar and Euro next to each other, it was also less cluttered, thus less confusing. Also blue is less aggressive than red. I guess I will have to show them the startup time of LibreOffice on the Pyra...

edit: Acclaration: not at the people, but the foreign language itself...
 
Funny, when I look at the keyboard, I tend to ignore the coloured symbols. I only see the English ones at first glance, and it took me a moment to see characters that weren't in french.
 
The 35th 24 hours of pre-orders is now up.

We got :

350 Pre-orders the first 24 hours (350)
79 Pre-orders in the second 24 hours. (429)
49 Pre-orders in the third 24 hours (478) (Some double up Pre-orders were removed though)
29 Pre-orders in the fourth 24 hours (507)
18 Pre-orders in the fifth 24 hours (525)
26 Pre-orders in the sixth 24 hours (551)
12 Pre-orders in the seventh 24 hours (563)
10 Pre-orders in the eight 24 hours (573)
17 Pre-orders in the ninth 24 hours (590)
11 Pre-orders in the tenth 24 hours (601)
9 Pre-orders in the eleventh 24 hours (610) - Note , the number would have been higher, however a number of duplicate orders were removed.
11 Pre-orders in the 12th 24 hours (621)
8 Pre-orders in the 13th 24 hours (629)
16 Pre-orders in the 14th 24 hours (645)
8 Pre-orders in the 15th 24 hours (653) - Adjusted
12 Pre-orders in the 16th 24 hours (665)
10 Pre-orders in the 17th 24 hours (675)
7 Pre-orders in the 18th 24 hours (682)
5 Pre-orders in the 19th 24 hours (687)
8 Pre-orders in the 20th 24 hours (695)
3 Pre-orders in the 21st 24 hours (698)
5 Pre-orders in the 22nd 24 hours (703)
3 Pre-orders in the 23rd 24 hours (706)
4 Pre-orders in the 24th 24 hours (710)
2 Pre-orders in the 25th 24 hours (712)
4 Pre-orders in the 26th 24 hours (716)
5 Pre-orders in the 27th 24 hours (721)
5 Pre-orders in the 28th 24 hours (726)
3 Pre-orders in the 29th 24 hours (729)
6 Pre-orders in the 30th 24 hours (735)
5 Pre-orders in the 31st 24 hours (740)
4 Pre-orders in the 32nd 24 hours (744)
6 Pre-orders in the 33rd 24 hours (750)
4 Pre-orders in the 34th 24 hours (754)
1 Pre-order in the 35th 24 hours (755)

Daily average over the last 7 days was 4.14 Pre-orders a day


Note: Daily figures also include converted Pre Pre-orders. As such , actual new pre-orders would be a little less than quoted figures.
 
The 36th 24 hours of pre-orders is now up.

We got :

350 Pre-orders the first 24 hours (350)
79 Pre-orders in the second 24 hours. (429)
49 Pre-orders in the third 24 hours (478) (Some double up Pre-orders were removed though)
29 Pre-orders in the fourth 24 hours (507)
18 Pre-orders in the fifth 24 hours (525)
26 Pre-orders in the sixth 24 hours (551)
12 Pre-orders in the seventh 24 hours (563)
10 Pre-orders in the eight 24 hours (573)
17 Pre-orders in the ninth 24 hours (590)
11 Pre-orders in the tenth 24 hours (601)
9 Pre-orders in the eleventh 24 hours (610) - Note , the number would have been higher, however a number of duplicate orders were removed.
11 Pre-orders in the 12th 24 hours (621)
8 Pre-orders in the 13th 24 hours (629)
16 Pre-orders in the 14th 24 hours (645)
8 Pre-orders in the 15th 24 hours (653) - Adjusted
12 Pre-orders in the 16th 24 hours (665)
10 Pre-orders in the 17th 24 hours (675)
7 Pre-orders in the 18th 24 hours (682)
5 Pre-orders in the 19th 24 hours (687)
8 Pre-orders in the 20th 24 hours (695)
3 Pre-orders in the 21st 24 hours (698)
5 Pre-orders in the 22nd 24 hours (703)
3 Pre-orders in the 23rd 24 hours (706)
4 Pre-orders in the 24th 24 hours (710)
2 Pre-orders in the 25th 24 hours (712)
4 Pre-orders in the 26th 24 hours (716)
5 Pre-orders in the 27th 24 hours (721)
5 Pre-orders in the 28th 24 hours (726)
3 Pre-orders in the 29th 24 hours (729)
6 Pre-orders in the 30th 24 hours (735)
5 Pre-orders in the 31st 24 hours (740)
4 Pre-orders in the 32nd 24 hours (744)
6 Pre-orders in the 33rd 24 hours (750)
4 Pre-orders in the 34th 24 hours (754)
1 Pre-order in the 35th 24 hours (755)
2 Pre-orders in the 36th 24 hours (757)

Daily average over the last 7 days was 4 Pre-orders a day


Note: Daily figures also include converted Pre Pre-orders. As such , actual new pre-orders would be a little less than quoted figures.
 
The 37th 24 hours of pre-orders is now up.

We got :

350 Pre-orders the first 24 hours (350)
79 Pre-orders in the second 24 hours. (429)
49 Pre-orders in the third 24 hours (478) (Some double up Pre-orders were removed though)
29 Pre-orders in the fourth 24 hours (507)
18 Pre-orders in the fifth 24 hours (525)
26 Pre-orders in the sixth 24 hours (551)
12 Pre-orders in the seventh 24 hours (563)
10 Pre-orders in the eight 24 hours (573)
17 Pre-orders in the ninth 24 hours (590)
11 Pre-orders in the tenth 24 hours (601)
9 Pre-orders in the eleventh 24 hours (610) - Note , the number would have been higher, however a number of duplicate orders were removed.
11 Pre-orders in the 12th 24 hours (621)
8 Pre-orders in the 13th 24 hours (629)
16 Pre-orders in the 14th 24 hours (645)
8 Pre-orders in the 15th 24 hours (653) - Adjusted
12 Pre-orders in the 16th 24 hours (665)
10 Pre-orders in the 17th 24 hours (675)
7 Pre-orders in the 18th 24 hours (682)
5 Pre-orders in the 19th 24 hours (687)
8 Pre-orders in the 20th 24 hours (695)
3 Pre-orders in the 21st 24 hours (698)
5 Pre-orders in the 22nd 24 hours (703)
3 Pre-orders in the 23rd 24 hours (706)
4 Pre-orders in the 24th 24 hours (710)
2 Pre-orders in the 25th 24 hours (712)
4 Pre-orders in the 26th 24 hours (716)
5 Pre-orders in the 27th 24 hours (721)
5 Pre-orders in the 28th 24 hours (726)
3 Pre-orders in the 29th 24 hours (729)
6 Pre-orders in the 30th 24 hours (735)
5 Pre-orders in the 31st 24 hours (740)
4 Pre-orders in the 32nd 24 hours (744)
6 Pre-orders in the 33rd 24 hours (750)
4 Pre-orders in the 34th 24 hours (754)
1 Pre-order in the 35th 24 hours (755)
2 Pre-orders in the 36th 24 hours (757)
2 Pre-orders in the 37th 24 hours (759)

Daily average over the last 7 days was 3.43 Pre-orders a day


Note: Daily figures also include converted Pre Pre-orders. As such , actual new pre-orders would be a little less than quoted figures.

I think I'll run this to 60 days , then, that will be it
 
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