Logo Discussion

[Natsu]

It doesn't really fit with Dragonbox.

 

[jcadence]

It doesn't really fit with Dragonbox.

I don't think Pandora had anything to do with dragons either, and at face value has about as much to do with boxes as Pyrenees have to do with Pyras. It may not be perfect, but Pyra does make me think of Pyrenees, and plenty of very successful marketing campaigns have been built around dogs. Not so many around dragons. Not that dragons are bad, there might be something there but they just haven't been tried much in the market. In my opinion though, if your only fault with the idea is that it fits just with Pyra and not with Dragonbox, that's like wondering why Macintosh uses an apple for it's logo.

 

[Tenka]

It doesn't really fit with Dragonbox.

Fits at least as well as an Egyptian red head.  From now on lets try to come up with logos which give due memorial to the spiritual inspiration for the Pyra, the great pyranees dog, as well as Dragonbox and that girl who kinda came from the other name.

 

[Natsu]

I don't think Pandora had anything to do with dragons either, and at face value has about as much to do with boxes as Pyrenees have to do with Pyras. It may not be perfect, but Pyra does make me think of Pyrenees, and plenty of very successful marketing campaigns have been built around dogs. Not so many around dragons.

Come on now. You really don't think that something called Dragonbox Pyra having a dog logo is weird?


At least they both give you imagery of fire and mythology. The Great Pyrenees, not so much. :lol:

I get it! Your image probably wouldn't work as a logo, but I like it for other reasons.

Btw this kind of reminds me of Zynga.

.....How about a fire girl riding a dog with wings. :lol:

 

[Neelix]

It doesn't really fit with Dragonbox.

I don't think Pandora had anything to do with dragons either, and at face value has about as much to do with boxes as Pyrenees have to do with Pyras. It may not be perfect, but Pyra does make me think of Pyrenees, and plenty of very successful marketing campaigns have been built around dogs. Not so many around dragons. Not that dragons are bad, there might be something there but they just haven't been tried much in the market. In my opinion though, if your only fault with the idea is that it fits just with Pyra and not with Dragonbox, that's like wondering why Macintosh uses an apple for it's logo.

What you are saying seems somewhat counter-intuitive. The Pandora wasn't branded as Dragonbox. The Pyra on the other hand is the DragonBox Pyra, just as the Macintosh is the Apple Macintosh. It makes far more sense for the logo to relate to DragonBox than it does for it to relate to a Pyrenees dog.

- Neelix

 

[jcadence]

Dragonbox is the company/brand, from what I understand. Pyra is the actual product. Most people do not say Micosoft Xbox, Sony Playstation, or Nintendo Wii anymore, they say Xbox, Playstation, or Wii. I'm not sure many people will be saying Dragonbox Pyra when they discuss it with their friends, so how the company name connects to the product logo doesn't need to be anymore than how the Apple logo connects to the word 'Macintosh'. I feel Dragonbox will be used in other facets of the business, but as far as picking a logo to stick on this particular product, Pyra is what we should focus on.

 

[jcadence]

What you are saying seems somewhat counter-intuitive. The Pandora wasn't branded as Dragonbox. The Pyra on the other hand is the DragonBox Pyra, just as the Macintosh is the Apple Macintosh. It makes far more sense for the logo to relate to DragonBox than it does for it to relate to a Pyrenees dog.


- Neelix

I actually did not know this. Is DragonBox officially part of this product's name instead of just the company making it? Apple Macintosh has since been shortened to just 'Mac', but Apple was part of the product name at the beginning, so I might be working on mistaken assumptions. Still, even now that they rarely use the word 'Apple' when referring to Macs, they still use the Apple logo. It's popular and catchy and simple, but has nothing to do with the word 'Macintosh', unless I am missing something else. I guess I am not sure that the product name needs to match the company logo, or that the product logo needs to match the company name. It certainly can, but I don't feel it is required to be catchy or push sales.

 

[Neelix]

What you call it really has little relevance.

Look at Apple's products, What does the logo always relate back to? The Apple brand.

You want people to remember the brand, more than the product, because products come and go, but the brand name persists across the whole product range and hopefully over several generations of products, and each product effectively advertises every other product in the range.

To choose the logo for vague association with an individual product name that has no association with the brand itself seems extremely short sighted.

- Neelix

edit: changed first line

 

[edgex004]

What you are saying seems somewhat counter-intuitive. The Pandora wasn't branded as Dragonbox. The Pyra on the other hand is the DragonBox Pyra, just as the Macintosh is the Apple Macintosh. It makes far more sense for the logo to relate to DragonBox than it does for it to relate to a Pyrenees dog.


- Neelix

I actually did not know this. Is DragonBox officially part of this product's name instead of just the company making it? Apple Macintosh has since been shortened to just 'Mac', but Apple was part of the product name at the beginning, so I might be working on mistaken assumptions. Still, even now that they rarely use the word 'Apple' when referring to Macs, they still use the Apple logo. It's popular and catchy and simple, but has nothing to do with the word 'Macintosh', unless I am missing something else. I guess I am not sure that the product name needs to match the company logo, or that the product logo needs to match the company name. It certainly can, but I don't feel it is required to be catchy or push sales.

McIntosh is a type of apple (the fruit), actually. I have picked them before and they are delicious. When I was little, I thought they had named the fruit after the computer. 

I like your idea and by all means keep developing it so we can see what comes out, but the link of EvilDragon to DragonBox to Pyra to Fire makes a lot of sense to me, so I would probably lean towards that option for now.

I also would prefer a very clean and simple logo. With that said, I really like Hans' work. I have been watching all these threads and his is the first one that really has struck a chord with me. As I was drawing my own ideas out one day, I had something similar (but not nearly as good) come up. So maybe that is why.

Edit: Spelling

 

[Tenka]

I get it! Your image probably wouldn't work as a logo, but I like it for other reasons.

Btw this kind of reminds me of Zynga.

.....How about a fire girl riding a dog with wings. :lol:

The dragon Feniul from the book Dragon Slippers collected dogs, and probably had a great Pyrenees.  Dogs and dragons can work as well as humans and dragons.

 

[Fzero]

This one is already taken unfortunately.

On my way into work this morning I saw this exact logo in white on the side of a red van with the letters PEL alongside it

It caught my attention immediately

 

[bzar]

^ Might be my google-fu, but can't find anything fitting that criteria. Link?

 

[Fzero]

Not sure if will find on Google, it might not be a massive company even, but certainly a van that drives through London has it as his logo.

The van was plain, with just that and the letters 'PEL', which might be initials for something, not sure, but it's definitely used that's all.

I just done a quick search for 'PEL' and 'PEL London' but not seeing it either.

It could well just have been a small outfit, like an electrician or a builder or something?

 

[comradekingu]

Or it could just be a van that drives on its own and is albeit not being a PAL, is still looking for affection in a sort of mechanical van-like way. Its human characteristics would suggest it really wants to find a PAL.

Drive little car, drive away before someone tries to make sense of you. They dont know the real you.

http://toastdesign.com.au/wp-content/uploads/logo_dp.jpg   http://yearntokern.com/2010/12/23/the-dp-logo/dp_01/

To the variant of the pyra posted by guest, two of those cuts make some sort of sense, the others two dont. For it to attain readability that way, you take away its shape. Which makes it noisy in dimly lit conditions worse. The idea is to see something structurally unison, and then see details from there. If you go the other way and apply a light to the back of it, you break the light with cuts. Also, it messes with my mind and my sense of energy in the logo.

Cuts break with tactile feedback, to flow and then scan is a better process than to read letters that are only halfway there, that makes no sense. If it did, then I would have gone for it, and even (not even) then, braille is an end to that means.

If a mod could move the original post http://boards.openpandora.org/topic/15521-welcome-new-and-old-members/page-8#entry317905 over to http://boards.openpandora.org/topic/14923-logo-idea-by-comradekingu-is-logo-idea i could answer things there for whoever wants to listen. This isnt the logo design thread/URL] its the logo discussion thread.

 

[Fzero]

I guess the [d] and [p] style was going to be pretty common, that one you found there; http://yearntokern.c...-dp-logo/dp_01/

was pretty much as it was on that van I see too, just on van it was horizontal

 

[spud42]

This one is already taken unfortunately.

On my way into work this morning I saw this exact logo in white on the side of a red van with the letters PEL alongside it

It caught my attention immediately

also it reminded me of this.....

 

[_wb_]

I still like the idea of a dP logo based on a flame, like Binky proposed.

They are easy to make and many variants are possible. Just make a nice P, make a copy of it, flip it horizontally and vertically, and put it somewhere to the left of the P. The positioning is important.

For example, here is one P shape, with the "d" mirror image in different positions:

High d:

Equal d and p:

Low d:

Even lower d:

 

[Fzero]

Of this style, I personally prefer the original one Binky did, where it's thinner.

I know some have a preference for the fatter shaped one, as they see it as more flame-like, but it doesn't look as clean to me. But I like that top one there, the 'high-d' one.

 

[Hồng Thất Công]

I still like the idea of a dP logo based on a flame, like Binky proposed.


They are easy to make and many variants are possible. Just make a nice P, make a copy of it, flip it horizontally and vertically, and put it somewhere to the left of the P. The positioning is important.


For example, here is one P shape, with the "d" mirror image in different positions:


High d:

Equal d and p:

Low d:

Even lower d:

I don't like none of these.  Sorry but they look like stuff coming out of some animals' rear ends

 

[_wb_]

Thinner lines look more elegant, but if the lines light up, I think it's better if they are thick enough to have enough area.