Latest update: Keymats are here, how strong will the logo plate be - and pretty cases.

trix

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Hello,
I don't post often, I don't even log in often, but I read these boards every day. I just wanted to drop in to continue to show my support and enthusiasm for this project. Thank you ED for the constant updates and impressive level of transparency and personal responses. Lack of the above is why I cancelled my Librem 5 pre-order last month. You've set a high standard.

On the topic of banning. I see nothing wrong with bumblebee's posts. I may not agree with that persons point of view, but there are several people here who have a point of view I do not understand nor agree with. This makes the place more interesting. Echo chambers are boring. EvilDragon has handled the situation remarkably well, and I hope bumblebee is at least taking into consideration that his posts are being responded to personally by the person in charge himself. This is absolutely unprecedented in this day and age. (unless you count the Pandora of course)

ED carried the Pandora to completion, despite setbacks so severe they make the Pyra project look extremely smooth and easy in comparison. I got my first batch Pandora after a really long wait. After all of my friends and family told me my money was long gone. After ED's former partner took off and left us all hanging. After an enormous amount of negative feedback from people completely convinced the project had failed. All these years later and my Pandora is still the most useful device I own. My much newer and more powerful smartphone is already so obsolete that I cannot download new apps (requires an OS upgrade beyond what my phone allows), cannot browse these forums (tapatalk requires higher OS version and the phone's browser wont render the forum), and the non-replaceable battery dies after half an hour away from a charger. Yet my Pandora, though it's much older, far less powerful, and in far worse physical condition, has only gotten better and better over the years. It can browse these forums, run WAY more programs than it could when I got it, sounds amazing when plugged into my huge speakers at work, and the original battery still holds about 85% of its original charge and lasts all day long with plenty left. It can even play Diablo II perfectly despite originally being told that is simply not possible on a low power ARM device.

It's because of the Pandora that I have absolute faith in the Pyra. I've seen all this before. I don't care how "old and under-powered" the SoC is. I will get a Pyra that will be a true upgrade to the Pandora in every respect except perhaps the sound output quality. My Pyra will improve year after year while my other devices get worse and worse. Better yet, it's modular, so the Pandora 3.0 will be far less expensive as I can (eventually) just upgrade the SoC itself. This means it's even more future-proof than the Pandora, and the Pandora is the most future-proof device I've ever owned.

Also if I have an issue with it, I can literally open a conversation with the people that made it. Which is, as I said above, absolutely unprecedented for a hardware device.

I didn't mean for this to turn into an advert or anything, I just think some folks may have lost a little of the big picture perspective here. This isn't some fly-by-night LLC that will crap out some hardware and then vanish. This is a highly experienced, completely transparent, extremely responsive group of people turning their passion into yet another extremely impressive, unique device that will last me a very very long time.

Thank you to everyone involved, including you awesome community of nerds, for doing everything you can to ensure my Pyra is as awesome as it can be! I'll go back to silently lurking now.
 

Grench

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am i banned too?
No. You are doomed to be here all by yourself for all eternity as the rest of us are banned.

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Robert Taylor

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While I can understand you, I'm all against banning here. I don't think Bubblebee means harm or wants to hurt anyone. There might be misunderstandings, might be a bit of a language barrier, etc.

You can simply put him on ignore and don't have to read his posts. And no worries, I am able to cope with stuff like that as well :)
Fair enough. Got it.

Trix, that is precisely the reason that I posted originally about the ban. Glad to hear ED has much thicker skin than I.

The rest of you, excellent posts. I stand corrected and I am really impressed by everyones stance on free speech. The post about seeing things from Bubblebees perspective was illuminating as well.

Really impressive.
 
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rSl

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No. You are doomed to be here all by yourself for all eternity as the rest of us are banned.
thank you so much for your comment.
you know, only love can conquer, so... <3<3<3<3<3<3

i allready had a dream where only @matzesu and me were left here. matze posting bee-worker-fashion pictures and i had to like them, like them, like them, like them... :D
 

trix

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"Very Active Member"
That title only considers total post count, with no regard for how far between those posts are. I've been around awhile.

That said, I posted much more often when the gp2x forum allowed guest posts (posting without an account). I also made a few posts with another joke account (named "FBI").

I guess you could say I have a bipolar posting style, with short manic periods of frequent posts followed by months of quiet lurking.
 

trix

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It took me a while to realize you are SONY, Nintendo. Welcome back!
 
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Deliver the logoplate, but don't assemble it.
That is a great idea. Though failing that, it would be cool to have a logo plate be sent to at least all the pre-orderers. That would be much better than throwing them away. The pre-orderers ordered the Pyra while expecting a logo plate on the Pyra, so they got the disappointment. Receiving a cool Pyra logo plate with the Pyra (even if not attached to it) might ease the disappointment a bit (I know it will for me).
 

pmprog

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Yeah, I'm sure down the line when things are running smooth, you'll be able to order an empty case without the logo plate attached
 

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That said, I hope that the matte black Pyras sell in enough numbers (5000+?) to justify short ~250-500 case sets runs of 'limited edition accessory cases'.
So, do you think black will be the only "non expensive" case? Worse, do you think it will be the only available color?

PD: I'm fine with matte black. I love it.
 

Grench

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So, do you think black will be the only "non expensive" case? Worse, do you think it will be the only available color?

PD: I'm fine with matte black. I love it.
Just being realistic on the math.
Currently 1000 +/- units sold.
Apathy is a thing. Maybe 5% of normal people would go out of their way to order a 2nd case to customize. Maybe 20% of us enthusiasts will. Minimum order quantities on case runs is likely to be at least 200 to bring the price per case into a paletable range. ED is already deep in debt on the project. Nice to haves should wait until there are enough units sold for the project to be able to sustain them. Maybe around 2000 sold?

I can see it happening some day, but for now those matte black cases look awesome.
 
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