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Should davesha skip the queue so he can work directly on the Pyra?

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Blue Shadow

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The other thing is, at the beginning, the 4gb unit was communicated as the unsafe option, with no guarantee that it will actually be produced (and there were times, when it looked indeed, that this version might not work out). So denying those pre-orderers a pyra(without paying more than planned), although they chose the seemingly safe option, could be problematic.
But I can see that some might consider it unfair, but maybe we can all take it the way that they just were lucky.
Disclaimer: I did order the 4gb version as well
 
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pyrat

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Fairness ?
really ?

Are we arguing about the fairness of a 5% change of price for 2% of buyers in order to halve the number of models produced in a world were you can be flying next to someone who paid 1000% more or less than you did for the same trip ?

I mean lambda is right with the reasoning, but come on. Move along, nothing to see here.
 

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You mean, when the 4GB prototypes made recognizable suboptimal design parameters, that remained hidden before?
I won't call them suboptimal design parameters (but I don't recall the details anymore), just that it turned out making 4gb to be more difficult than anticipated. But iirc, those problems were solved a long time ago, anyway.
 

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How is it unfair? Do you really think that those 2GB buyers mind getting a 4GB instead? They'd probably only ordered the 2GB version because it's cheaper and the price stays the same. The only advantage that the 2GB verison would probably have is using slightly less power.

And it's definitely not unfair to the 4GB buyers. The 4GB buyers get what they ordered, they're not getting shafted as far as the free upgrades are concerned. If ED wants to give out free upgrades to people for whatever reason then that's his right. He could go out on street and give 28 Pyras for free to a random stranger and it would not be unfair. I think it's good to know that he's solving this issue in the nicest way possible. 22 people get extra happy and no one is being shafted.
I should have specified, it could appear to be unfair towards people that paid full price for a 4gb model. I honestly have no issue with 2gb buyers getting a free upgrade while we pay more for the same device. More happy Pyra users!
 
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I should have specified, it could appear to be unfair towards people that paid full price for a 4gb model. I honestly have no issue with 2gb buyers getting a free upgrade while we pay more for the same device. More happy Pyra users!
and the employer gave a day's wage to the hired hand who came at the end of the day. so when it came round to the employee who had worked all day, they thought they would receive more -- but alas they too received a day's wage. "but boss, we have born the heat of the day, and you gave those who worked only an hour the same as us."

the boss replied, "did you not agree to a day's wage for your work?" "i guess", replied the hired hand. "then don't be upset that i am generous, for you shall receive a 4GB pyra as per our contract."
 

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and the employer gave a day's wage to the hired hand who came at the end of the day. so when it came round to the employee who had worked all day, they thought they would receive more -- but alas they too received a day's wage. "but boss, we have born the heat of the day, and you gave those who worked only an hour the same as us."

the boss replied, "did you not agree to a day's wage for your work?" "i guess", replied the hired hand. "then don't be upset that i am generous, for you shall receive a 4GB pyra as per our contract."
I don't quite see, how the effort for that employer to scale the wage compares to the effort for ED to scale the RAM of only 22 devices in mass production. Now of course, one could propose, that all devices get produced with 4GB and 22 devices get half their RAM destroyed after, but that seems quite silly to me.
 

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I don't quite see, how the effort for that employer to scale the wage compares to the effort for ED to scale the RAM of only 22 devices in mass production. Now of course, one could propose, that all devices get produced with 4GB and 22 devices get half their RAM destroyed after, but that seems quite silly to me.
Just ask the 22 people to please pay more. If they genuinely can’t, then ED upgrades them for free. If they can, they’re getting more than they ordered for and it’s reasonable that they pay more for it. I imagine most people who have one of these preordered aren’t so pinched that the difference would really hurt, but if it does, I think a free upgrade is totally reasonable and I don’t mind it as a 4gb preorderer.
 
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Djoga'Ro

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Just ask the 22 people to please pay more. If they genuinely can’t, then ED upgrades them for free. If they can, they’re getting more than they ordered for and it’s reasonable that they pay more for it. I imagine most people who have one of these preordered aren’t so pinched that the difference would really hurt, but if it does, I think a free upgrade is totally reasonable and I don’t mind it as a 4gb preorderer.
Valid enough. Though, answering with "I genuinely can't" would always raise the suspicion, that maybe the answerer is just greedy. Than ED would just have spared them that pre-emptively. ?
Yes, just like
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Nah, more like Neelix'
 

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I have no doubt those will be buyable as a post market 3d printed expensive replacement case. However, for the standard mass production one, cost need to be low. That means as few colors as possible and as simple as possible. That means standard colors, which means black at this time.


The other colors wwill come out in 2 months....

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