edit: by which I mean .. Most of us will not work on P2 with Craig, but if ED wants to do something and wants us to help, I'm sure we'd all jump in. One must ask.. if Fatih, ED, notaz, myself, and random other devs like sebt3 etc will not work with craig.. you have to wonder.
From what I read, it does not seem Craig accomplished much more than kicking things off, anyway. The rest of the team can do fine without him for any new project.
To be fair, and to add to what ED said -- the Pandora would _not_ have existed without Craig or his crazy ideas up front, and I'm sure he worked his ass off; ED and Craig carry huge mortgages and such to get this project off the ground, and they took all the risk. Day one (I'd just had my first daughter) I said 'no way I'm putting $$ in this, too risky, I'll work day and night instead'
But these guys worked day and night and put up their houses.. thats *balls* most of us do not have.
Also, GBAX was cool once
I bought my first GP32 from Craig, and my gp2x's
Craig IS
(was?) Spiritus Movens of the project. No Craig, no Pandora, simple as that. Respect that.
(Edited: I'm not sure anymore is it true, because he also did most of damage to project)
A little bit off topic, but a few people have mentioned the lack of thanks received by a lot of the guys who put so much work in to make the Pandora possible (design, firmware, software, distributions, hardware, repositories, whatever) and I know that thanks is something you really want to receive from Craig, but for what it is worth, I, and hundreds or thousands of other people are very thankful for all the hard work. So thank you! For those lucky enough to actually have a Pandora, it still amazes me every time I flip the lid open and use it. It really is quite amazing what has been accomplished (even more so when all the problems faced are considered).
+1
Now let's get rid of the remaining preorder mess (which is only a fraction of the preorder mess of one year ago, thanks to the amazing Rebirth!) so ED and Craig can finally get rid of those debts and move on to do new great things, whether it is together or in separate ways.
+1 to that.
Many guys work hard on project, thank you all!
However, I still want
public list of left preorders. It doesn't bother me if it is 50, 150, 500, 800... however, if there's
much more then we got general problem. Then ED was deceived too, and many of us... IMHO it is intolerable. If this is the case, rest of the OPT should vote about it and somehow find a solution...
Hiding shits after four years is pointless. It makes things worse. I'll elaborate this.
Let's suppose there are 500 preorders left. Every one of them informed about Pandora at least 10 people. Those 10*500=5000, spread all over the world KNOW FOR SURE that Pandora did not come to "naive purchaser". And there are at least 500 more who gave up, refunded (or even worse waiting for refund). Suppose that any of them inform one person/year (!) about his bad experience, it is at least 2000 more people. And there are plenty of professional competition, from small shops to big corporations: they need to know about it and don't look at project with respect. It is at least 2000 people more. And there are regular people let's say 50/month heard about Pandora project in last 4 years. Suppose half of them do not think good about project. It is 1000 people more. As you can see, it is at least army of 10000 hostile people around the world that know for sure that something is gone awfully wrong.
Of course, this "vapourware" is subject of joke for years. The most terrible public image possible that you can imagine / achieve.
But, there's more. After (soon to be) 4 years, what should "naive purchaser" answer to regular, but naughty question: "When will you get your Pandora?"
"Well... there's just couple of us waiting... in 2 months I think." (Response is buahahahahahaha)
My point is: please, do not hide things anymore, it is pointless and make things
worse every single next day.
Obviously, it is related to master-chief Craig. ED has opposite approach.
