You didn't expect this, I guess.


Djoga'Ro said:
You can still use it for programming - just outsource the compiling to your laptop/server/whatever:

Browse drobbins / fchroot - Bitbucket

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I don't see how that helps personally. From reading the readme, it seems to set up a vitrtual machine under QEMU on the same hardware and jumps into that. Don't get me wrong, it might be a novel way to cross compile stuff on powerful hardware, but you can't really use it on your pyra to leverage that. Personally I run sshd on my most powerful server and ssh into it from my local device using a pre-shared secret key.
 
levi said:
I don't see how that helps personally. From reading the readme, it seems to set up a vitrtual machine under QEMU on the same hardware and jumps into that. Don't get me wrong, it might be a novel way to cross compile stuff on powerful hardware, but you can't really use it on your pyra to leverage that. Personally I run sshd on my most powerful server and ssh into it from my local device using a pre-shared secret key.
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As I understand it, from your powerful machine you chroot into a shared directory on your embedded system and do the building. Meant to take the torture out of having Funtoo on a weak device that doesn't share your build-machines architecture. I think it's neat.
 
Well, i dont want to code on my Pyra, i know that a PC works basically whit "0 and 1" but thats all.., im more the End User..

Its a pretty small Notebook you can Carry everyday, and if you want, you can use it for Tetris..,
Hopefully a Gameboy Color and a Super Nintendo Emulator gets Released soon, because there are some cool Super Mario Land Color Hacks : Super Mario Land DX and New Super Mario Land..
But as i also carry a Ebook, im also fine when the First Release are for the OS..
 
The emulators you mention are in the Debian repos as far as I know... Probably not optimized but it should not be an issue up to SNES at least
 
levi said:
Hmm, why would you need to use qemu if that's what it's doing?
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To get around cross-compiling. It sets up qemu to emulate the target hardware, chroots from within that environment into the target, and places you in there then. I only skimmed it once. I guess - since it's specifically a Funtoo tool, that it looks in the target's eprofile (or whatever it was) to determine its architecture. But if the means to provide it with a choice ain't already there, that should be added easily enough. ? Or hardcode it for Pyra.
 
matzesu said:
Thanks for the Answer Askarus, the Pyra is for me just a „new“ Pandora, but I want it to use more as a Tiny Notebook than as a Emulator Handheld
It’s planed to use it as my Mainpc at home, as far the Rotation of the HDMI Signal works..
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You have no idea how much more convenient typing is when you have äöüß keys and ALT and FN on shoulder buttons if you did not try it yourself.
It is such an enormous upgrade for us Germans.

levi said:
I don't see how that helps personally. From reading the readme, it seems to set up a vitrtual machine under QEMU on the same hardware and jumps into that. Don't get me wrong, it might be a novel way to cross compile stuff on powerful hardware, but you can't really use it on your pyra to leverage that. Personally I run sshd on my most powerful server and ssh into it from my local device using a pre-shared secret key.
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Maybe.
I don't see the big usecase for me in outsorcing.
The situation when I would want to code stuff on the Pyra would be the situations when I have no big machine at hand.
Yes, I could use the internet to do so, but then again, I'm German, so if I have no WLAN there is no guarantee I'll have reasonable mobile internet :p
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Askarus said:
You have no idea how much more convenient typing is when you have äöüß keys and ALT and FN on shoulder buttons if you did not try it yourself.
It is such an enormous upgrade for us Germans.



Maybe.
I don't see the big usecase for me in outsorcing.
The situation when I would want to code stuff on the Pyra would be the situations when I have no big machine at hand.
Yes, I could use the internet to do so, but then again, I'm German, so if I have no WLAN there is no guarantee I'll have reasonable mobile internet :p
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I'm starting to write down my bachelor thesis now and it's starting to be nice outside.
So I'll give my prototype a new chance and try to do some work outside with it.
I have a Lenovo Yoga Book c930 which has an e-paper and a LCD screen.
This thing is awesome as f*ck but not suitable for typing in any manner.
Here the Pyra with its thumb typing capabilities is way superior.
 
Well, as my GPD Win now starts to Bulk a bit (known Batterie Issue), i got back to my trusty 2011 Lenovo Thinkpad on my Desktop until i get the Pyra,
This Thing got a Fullsice Keyboard whit Numpad, but it dosnt fit in my Pockets..

Deleted some of the Lenovo Software, and i hope i get its a bit optimiced as its now my only Windows 10 PC..

Its great to have äöü on the Pyra whitout the need to remember the correct Keys like on the Pandora..
 
Askarus said:
Maybe.
I don't see the big usecase for me in outsorcing.
The situation when I would want to code stuff on the Pyra would be the situations when I have no big machine at hand.
Yes, I could use the internet to do so, but then again, I'm German, so if I have no WLAN there is no guarantee I'll have reasonable mobile internet :p
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I guess, I read "Programming on the Pyra" more as "Developing for the Pyra". Your toolchain would be set up on the Pyra for the Pyra - no cross-compiling. You could have a script on your build slave, that expects a pwd and a command, fchroots into your Pyra, cd to said pwd and runs said command. Have a wrapper for your make command on your Pyra, that invokes said script via ssh passing pwd and command. Et voila, your build slave is a transparent computation power expansion pak (TM) or CPEP for short. :)
Or if you'd rather fire a build twice a minute, have the fchroot standing. from within there fire up a daemon, that's waiting for your make wrapper to drop pwd and command into some sink (socket, D-Bus, microBus, file).
You could be working on your programm all day and compile, when you get home. If you have a server hosted somewhere with better upstream bandwidth, you could make it another build slave, for when you're out and about (and use it, as soon as your Pyra has a proper connection provided by whoever).
When you're home already, you could leverage your PC's peripherals and do the programming through fchroot, too.
EDIT: You could have a Live Linux and a vm on a stick, for when you're at somebodie's and your host let's you utilize their hardware or a vm for your compiling.
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matzesu said:
This Thing got a Fullsice Keyboard whit Numpad, but it dosnt fit in my Pockets..
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Bigger pockets. ;)
 
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I have big Pockets, maybe the Bigest, as they fit Pandora Ebook and my Paper Notebook at once, but i dotnt think there are Pants somewhere that fits a Fullsize Thinkpad whit Numpad and DVD Rom Drive..

Therefore: I want this Pyra Thing..
 
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Don’t think this could fit
But I will work on it this weekend, cleaning, and defragmentation


Whit best regards, Matthias
 
To be honest, yes I expected something like this!
But.. the disasters that keep the Pyra from becoming a reality are getting massive proportions, worldwide lockups.
Still progress is ongoing, nothing can stop the Pyra now, will it? Everybody stay home and safe, the battle will continue, but staying at home would have been easier on us all with the Pyra to play.
Stay strong!
 
I wonder if there are some news, i know the Corona Virus dit a lot of holding back to the Project, some Chinese Factorys dit a Mandatory Vacation, and there was this issues whit the blocked borders where the Trucks had to wait a long time to come to Germany ..

Just a small update to know you ditnt got to a Corona Zombie or something..

I just imagine Craig as Negan : "Tell my cute little Lucile your Ordernumber" ^^
 
Blue Shadow said:
Actually what concerns me more than no news, is that there was no posting of ED anywhere on the boards, for a long time. I hope he is alright.
At least, I just noticed he released a new podcast episode, so I take that as a slight life sign.
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He's fine.
I did have a small conversation with him over Telegram during the Easter holidays
 
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