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Discussion in 'Pyra News' started by EvilDragon, Sep 20, 2016.

  1. Klumpen

    Klumpen Run away! Run away!

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  2. EvilDragon

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    No, that can't happen, not even with the current travel distance.
    The top of the keys currently is 1mm above the case.
    Current travel distance is 1mm (but should be 0,8mm in the finished one), so right now, it reaches exactly the top of the case, and when it's finished, it should still be 0,2mm above the case.

    Then you have the plastic caps that surround the keymat with a height of about 2mm (don't know it exactly out of my head, but that's an estimation).

    The case plastic surrounds these caps with a height of about 1mm.
    This gives the keys both stability and also makes sure they can't get stuck.

    So, let's think about it:
    The keys are 1mm above the case, which means about 1mm of the plastic caps are surrounded by the case.

    If you press down the key, the plastic cap will sink into the case (1mm right now, 0.8mm ideally when they're fixed) and the height of the surrounding it 1mm.

    To get them stuck, you need to push the keys AT LEAST below the surrounding of the case. So the travel distance would need to be at least 2mm before that can happen... that's twice of the travel distance we have right now.

    So nope, they can't get stuck. Not a chance.
     
  3. torpor

    torpor hack hack hack, the little machines fight back

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    Full ACK, I'm sure you're on top of it ED. My glib analysis versus your comprehensive understanding of the discussion = no worries, mate. :)
     
  4. Blimp

    Blimp Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For

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    This topic made me think of this song:
     
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  5. fusion_power

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    You wrote they never had such problems before with the keymats so...^^"

    Funny, I instantly think onto Ultravox:

     
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  6. ahahah

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    hi, how much time do you estimate for the battery to see the pyra goes from 100% to 10% charge in standby mode? (wifi and all network connections off)
     
  7. Grench

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    The short answer is that nobody probably knows for certain yet. However, we can make inferences.

    My Galaxy Note 3 (USB 3.0 charger) has a 3200 Mah battery and takes 2.5 hours to go from 10% to 100%. The Pyra's battery is about twice the size and charges via similar USB chargers. So... @5-6 hours 10-100%?
     
  8. iprice

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    I think he meant the other way around Grench; If the Pyra was fully charged and left to idle, how long would the battery last?

    Well, if you go by the Pandora "standard", you're going to have a very long wait. The Pandora can play music with the lid closed for over 100hours, according to the Wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_(console)

    The Pyra has a larger battery, but other components will take a higher toll than Pandora. But hopefully it'll be at least as long and probably longer.

    Of course, this is mere speculation for now.
     
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  9. levi

    levi Still fresh, damnit!

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    100 hours sounds rather optimistic to me, but my unit generally lasts for about 50 hours between charges if only used as a music player for a few hours of that time. I turn off wifi, USB host power, display, bluetooth and tv-out, but I leave it running at 1.1GHz and rely on the idle mode scaling to deliver only the power I actually need (mine is a GHz model).
     
  10. ahahah

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    yes i meant from 100% to 10% ^^ (discharge way)
    thanks for answers
     
  11. WizardStan

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    The Pandora, on idle, will last a week or so I've found, multiple weeks if actually put into suspend.
    On the other hand, I updated the Android ROM in my HP Touchpad, a 6000mah battery; I fully charged it 3 weeks ago and haven't used it since. Today it is at 78%.
    So the simple answer is the only answer: nobody will know until we actually try it, and even then it might improve over time. My Touchpad used to last a week between charges, now it's an estimated 3 months!
     
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  12. Silent-Hunter

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    I really hope ED is right about the Pyra coming out before 2017 starts.
     
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  13. vcoleiro1

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    I'd be surprised if it does, it just seems there are a number of things still to be sorted. I would guess 1st Qtr 2017.
     
  14. Silent-Hunter

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    The stuff remaining to be sorted seems like it might be really trivial to fix, though.
     
  15. Wrath Of Khan

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    Could well be. Mass production January perhaps?
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 22, 2016, Original Post Date: Sep 22, 2016 ---
    Quite probably; Ed is being cautious so that the Pyra will be perfect, no issues like the Pandora, wonky shoulder buttons etc
     
  16. vcoleiro1

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    Like it has been for the last year or so right :p

    Remember when it seemed close and people were guessing the end of last year for release. I actually took a stretch back then and said June this year.
     
  17. Wrath Of Khan

    Wrath Of Khan Soul soother...

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    How about we celebrate the anniversary of the Pyra's releases each year with a coding compo or such and maybe more. It might be a nice novelty - Pyra Day!
     
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  18. Silent-Hunter

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    Yeah but the longer it goes on, the closer we get. So I'm not sure it can be compared that way.
     
  19. Neelix

    Neelix Insecticidal Maniac

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    You've got to be careful about looking at things like that... you don't want to become known for discovering the Zeno's Paradox of Pyra Production. ;)

    -Neelix
     
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  20. Grench

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    Which one? So many of them feel applicable on any given day.
     

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