Quite a bit for you to read!

[FaeMinx]

I am really worried about the shipping.
I fear that there might be problems shipping the Pyra with battery to South Africa.
A lot of Airlines are much more strict about shipping batteries now ...

Oh hello there fellow South African.

I'm also curious about this.

 

[Kippykip]

For some reason I never even thought about shipping batteries, it's legal in Australia right?

 

[ClockworkCoder]

In today's technological world, how can it POSSIBLY be illegal to ship batteries?

In a world where countries no longer trust each other...

 

[Bokkertoff]

In today's technological world, how can it POSSIBLY be illegal to ship batteries?

The Airlines are afraid of fires on the airplane. (Thanks for that Samsung ...)

And Hi FaeMinx

 

[Silent-Hunter]

Well they can't cripple industry out of fear, that's ridiculous. If everyone just starts shipping stuff anyway, what are they gonna do? Arrest every single person?

 

[Grench]

The Airlines are afraid of fires on the airplane. (Thanks for that Samsung ...)

And Hi FaeMinx

Concern over batteries on planes predates the Samsung Note 7 existing.

Notebook batteries were already causing issues in 2006:
http://www.slate.com/articles/techn...plosive_history_of_lithium_ion_batteries.html

Apple MacBook "exploding" (expanding/failing) batteries in 2013:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-macbook-battery-exploded/

FAA warning on cargo shipments October 14, 2015:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/14/faa_lithium_battery_warning/

FAA ban on cargo shipments February 23, 2016:
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/23/news/companies/lithium-ion-battery-ban-airplanes/

Note 7 released: August 19, 2016.

Note 7 banned on air travel in US October 14, 2016:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/10/14/dot-bans-samsung-galaxy-note-7-flights/92066322/

So - in the context here - bulk shipments of batteries and devices were already banned from passenger aircraft prior to the Note 7 fiasco.

Not just a Samsung thing.

 

[Silent-Hunter]

Yes but won't banning them from cargo planes as well cripple industry and business?

EDIT: Nevermind, as cargo on passenger planes.

 

[EvilDragon]

Shipping items with batteries is no problem, UPS and TNT both do that. They use cargo airplanes for that, not the normal passenger planes.
It's just expensive (about 60 EUR) which is why I work with Link, for example, for shipping within the US.

 

[Hiko]

The thread has started off the topic, lol

 

[Wrath Of Khan]

Yes, because I did wonder. What is the difference between shipping batteries via airplane and simply having your mobile phone on your person as a traveller?

Same danger.

 

[WizardStan]

If your phone battery (singular) catches fire while on your person a flight attendant can grab a fire extinguisher and spritz you out.
If a battery in the cargo hold catches fire, packed in with other batteries, there's potentially no one to stop it before it gets completely out of hand.

 

[Grench]

If your phone battery (singular) catches fire while on your person a flight attendant can grab a fire extinguisher and spritz you out.
If a battery in the cargo hold catches fire, packed tightly in 20 pallets 20.000 of other batteries each, there's potentially no one to stop it before it gets completely out of hand.

Fixed that. Needed to reflect the industrial nature of bulk component cargo shipments.

We're all better off that these bulk orders can't go on passenger planes anymore.

 

[Lloyd Xmas]

Just curious if someone working on this project could weigh in with a vague ETA: would it be safe to assume that the Pyra would be available before winter of this year (2017)? Really excited to see this beast in action, especially while traveling on plane flights.

 

[Kippykip]

Just curious if someone working on this project could weigh in with a vague ETA: would it be safe to assume that the Pyra would be available before winter of this year (2017)? Really excited to see this beast in action, especially while traveling on plane flights.

Well I'm hoping to take one with me in August when I'm going on a holiday.
That's IF it gets finished beforehand

 

[Grench]

Holding ones breath while waiting for a Pyra can be very unhealthy.

A 'deadline' is one thing that this project has never proposed.

That said, it seems to be getting much much closer. They're still debugging with real hardware, but in multiple locations now. Maybe consider it 'Alpha X Testing'? I would put a number in for X, but I'm unsure what board revision combination they're working with.

 

[1313Q]

Wonder whether it can be shipped to China. I didn't buy GPD because I am waiting for this one!

Hi

I had my Pandora shipped to China about 2 years ago, so yes!

 

[Pyrate]

I rather wait and have an awesome device that lasts for a couple of years than a rushed out device that will break apart 1 day after its 1 year warranty runs out (applies to about 99% of all smartphones nowadays...).
Although I bought the GPD Win to try it out, I do not (and never) expect it to last a long time. And spare parts for cheap electronics are just not part of the concept of dish out electronics
So I can be quite patient regarding the release date of the pyra

 

[Swordfish II]

At some point enough is enough though. Just like people flipping about the MUX and demanding a full redesign at the cost of another couple years.

 

[AnimatedFreak]

What is left anyways? The software, the eMMC issue and the keymat right? Or am I missing something? Feels really close now but I've had that feeling for a while now

 

[Kippykip]

What is left anyways? The software, the eMMC issue and the keymat right? Or am I missing something? Feels really close now but I've had that feeling for a while now

afaik the eMMC issue turned out to be very insignificant anyway so that's basically sorted. Also there was something about the case too