How to calculate a price for the Pyra

[chewdiggy]

Not yet, give me a few weeks more

No rush, just wondered

Your soul

That was sold a long time ago. I still have both kidneys, however. Would one of those suffice?

 

[Grench]

Seems likely. I didn't expect the prototypes for sale to sell out, and they went pretty quick. Maybe the price should have been a bit higher.

If they were much higher, I would not have been able to buy a spot in that line. I have been approached by a rather confused individual who wanted to buy my prototype - which he thought I already had - that he thought he should be able to buy for $1900. My attempts to explain to him that it did not exist for me to sell may or may not have sunk in. I told him that it was not for sale. He demanded that I put a price on it. Now, I can afford my toys, but I do still work for a living. I told him that I would sell him my place in line for $8000 USD of which we would give ED 25% to cover his inconvenience of updating the paperwork. He stopped asking me about it at that point.

Trust ED to select a price point that is fair. That means that the price will be what it needs to and should be - which does include him hopefully making a tidy profit from this risky enterprise of his.

 

[rygD]

It would be nice if we could donate enough money to make sure the Pyra gets made, regardless of the number of preorders. If I had that much money to give away I would, and then the preorder funds could go toward the CPU board upgrade or other cool projects. Alas, I am broke.

 

[FBnil]

individual who wanted to buy my prototype

TELL HIM I AM SELLING MY DRAGONBOX. SPECIAL EDITION IT HAS A CAMERA INCLUDED!!!

 

[b_o_b]

Hehe, I got a couple of those as well

It would be nice if we could donate enough money to make sure the Pyra gets made, regardless of the number of preorders. If I had that much money to give away I would, and then the preorder funds could go toward the CPU board upgrade or other cool projects. Alas, I am broke.

It would surprise me if ED will not be able to find 800 people to pre-order but if it is a problem it might be possible to ask some customers to buy more Pyra's. The additional one(s) could be optional to receive once production is done, or you will receive a refund once the Pyra has been sold to a new customer. It would basically be an interest free loan.
I wouldn't mind buying two then, I really want this project to succeed.

 

[Faust]

Hehe, I got a couple of those as well



It would surprise me if ED will not be able to find 800 people to pre-order but if it is a problem it might be possible to ask some customers to buy more Pyra's. The additional one(s) could be optional to receive once production is done, or you will receive a refund once the Pyra has been sold to a new customer. It would basically be an interest free loan.
I wouldn't mind buying two then, I really want this project to succeed.

Yeah I think I would also do it.

 

[Not_a_Nick]

Buying two would certainly be a stretch for me, but a lot of people would surely buy extra batteries, blank cases for side projects and so on, i would.

 

[TheOldOne]

At this point I'm more likely to buy a used Pandora than a pyra

 

[levi]

Well yeah, that's fairly sensible. While a Pyra has a lot of promise going for it, out of the two only the Pandora has the confirmed library and fully operable OS right now.

 

[Swordfish II]

Buying two would certainly be a stretch for me, but a lot of people would surely buy extra batteries, blank cases for side projects and so on, i would.

I would buy two, because I would also use it for 5+ years and who knows if we can still get parts then (just look at the pyra nub situation).

 

[EvilDragon]

Hmm, I could offer discounts for people who want two or more Pyras, as it seems quite a few of you want them.

 

[rohezal]

Hmm, I could offer discounts for people who want two or more Pyras, as it seems quite a few of you want them.

I would consider this offer. How big could such a discount be?

 

[txus]

I would consider this offer. How big could such a discount be?

I'd consider it too.

 

[Dude]

Ah yes... the Family plan...

"Free calls between Pyra users!" --- ha ha

 

[bzar]

Would consider a two-pack offer

 

[matzesu]

The Problem of the Pyra will be, that you only can sell one Unit to one user, because its upgrade modules..
on Pandora, if you need a faster one, you had to buy a new unit, but on pyra, you only buy a new CPU Board...

I will probatly give my Pandora, to my Dad, or sit it on the Shelf, as i only need one Opensource Handheld..
and im happy if i can afford one Unit whit my money,..

 

[b_o_b]

Hmm, I could offer discounts for people who want two or more Pyras, as it seems quite a few of you want them.

This will certainly help, but if you lower the price you will probably need more than 800 pre-orders to start production. My (unconventional ) initial suggestion was to accept a pre-order that is an 'option to buy', but will be sold to new customers if the option is not exercised. You will then receive a full refund. It might take a year to find a new customer.. or it will never happen (no guarantees) On the other hand you can exercise the option any time and receive the additional Pyra(s) so there is no risk to be left empty handed.

It sounds more complicated than it is..

Not sure if that causes legal issues though, or if there is even anyone interested in that. And this is only needed if it is not easily possible to get 800 pre-orders.

 

[Grench]

Frankly, by allowing combined shipping, ED already does offer a significant discount for buying two or more.

Maybe something like, "Buy two, get two carry cases and two mugs free."? The idea being to add value while not decreasing revenue.

 

[Hồng Thất Công]

The Problem of the Pyra will be, that you only can sell one Unit to one user, because its upgrade modules..
on Pandora, if you need a faster one, you had to buy a new unit, but on pyra, you only buy a new CPU Board...

I will probatly give my Pandora, to my Dad, or sit it on the Shelf, as i only need one Opensource Handheld..
and im happy if i can afford one Unit whit my money,..

No, you got it reverse. You only need one closed-source device or none at all, and the rest are opensource.

 

[___]

Frankly, by allowing combined shipping, ED already does offer a significant discount for buying two or more.

Maybe something like, "Buy two, get two carry cases and two mugs free."? The idea being to add value while not decreasing revenue.

I don't know... I get where you're coming from, but two mugs and two carry cases are not enough incentive to spend 1000 euros (or more depending on the final price).

I'd rather make that two sd cards filled with behind the scenes production interviews/evil dragon shredding on an awesome metal-axe for 2 hours/ whatever bonus content is feasible... and two carry cases, two extra batteries, something like a limited edition box with signature yadda yadda.

just saying that there needs to be something extraordinarily awesome to convince people to drop that amount of money into buying two units that early, if they can't get a significant discount.

also combined shipping should be a given. considering how much people would pay, larger distributors would most likely offer free shipping! so that's not a significant discount at all in my opinion.