Preorders Have Started. (Previously named starts in two hours)


I´d keep the campaign running for another 2 or 3 weeks while pushing press kits and attempting contacts with news outlets.
I had a feeling that Pyra is not targeted to sell millions day one but a few everyday as people get to know it.

I still think 1.5k is possible but it seems troublesome to get new users on a pre-order outside the standard crowd funding schemes.
I mean, it is fine with people that we know but to a complete stranger, I´d understand why one would hold back till it is ready.

So I guess 1 week of news work and a couple to let it flow a bit while more work is undergoing Pyra should be nice.

I don´t have much access to spread the word but a few international forums I dwell as well as a few TI professors at computer science and tech schools that could push the knowledge to students.
I doubt I can wreck much sales since Brazil is a total money mess these days and the final price for the Pyra gets a x2 tax around here. But none the less, I think it is important to spread the word.
I think right now it is important to get people to know the project, even if they are not immediately buying one.
 
I will be pleasantly surprised if we reach half of that amount.
I could be wrong about the number. I thought it was a number that he had in mind so the Pyra, as a project, could stand on its own financially (no more preorders, just make em, sell em, then make more with the money from sales when the stock gets low).
 
I guess its technically possible to still run a kickstarter for a second batch of pyras. We should hit the needed 750 with this batch. It might be worth considering?
 
I will be pleasantly surprised if we reach half of that amount.

I guess its technically possible to still run a kickstarter for a second batch of pyras. We should hit the needed 750 with this batch. It might be worth considering?

Wow - as far as I can tell the press kits haven't even been sent out. That is a lot of doom and gloom for a project that hardly anyone not directly involved in has even heard of.

The basic numbers for a single production run exist already. As far as I can tell, that means it is going to happen. The rest of the world is now welcome to join in - they are simply not informed yet.
 
Preordered my 4 gb standard edition!
It' s time to replace my GPH Wiz!
Awesome! Although I misread 'GPH Wiz' as 'GPD Win' at first, which was a little o_O!

@matzezu They were released as the TMHT in the UK too, but everyone talked about them as the TMNT. Reading up about it on wikipedia suggests it was Maggie Thatcher in the UK who made it get rebranded, then the other European territories sublicensed it from the UK. Only Italy kept the original name.
 
Wow - as far as I can tell the press kits haven't even been sent out. That is a lot of doom and gloom for a project that hardly anyone not directly involved in has even heard of.

The basic numbers for a single production run exist already. As far as I can tell, that means it is going to happen. The rest of the world is now welcome to join in - they are simply not informed yet.
Oh I quite agree, the pyra will get many more orders. I'm confident of that. If ed did want a bigger marketing push for a later batch, post the first 1,500 or so sold then he could still consider it.
 
It all depends a bit on why people are not ordering yet.
  • They would if they knew about it. This is an issue which can be solved with the press kit and by attending events with prototypes.
  • They doubt it will be delivered at all. This is resolved by getting a first batch on to the market.
  • They are skeptical about its capabilities. This can be resolved with software demos and promotional videos. Though truthfully it will be lacking at first (and like the Pandora become more and more awesome over time)
  • They want an ATOM. Here the "existence" of the GPD win hurts a bit. Can be resolved with a board replacement in the future.
  • It is too expensive. In the short term, price reduction seems unreasonable. This may be addressed by information instead but also may not be.
    How so? The Pyra does many things which are commonly split over multiple devices. The more things you intend to do with it, the "cheaper" it becomes (relatively speaking). E.g. the Pyra can also function as a media player, but if that is all you are looking for then it is a *very* costly choice of media player.
I am sure there are more reasons than listed here. Point is, we can somewhat increase the size of the first batch with advertising, but we should not delay too long as bringing it to market is very important as well to increase credibility. As for the proper cut-off point? Well, that's for EvilDragon to decide. Personally I feel that getting to 750 may be doable, but I am skeptical about getting to 1000 for the first batch.
 
I'm not sure of the value of advertising at this point in time. Many potential purchasers will want to see full working versions and have answers to questions (eg memory and telecom service in the US etc.).

There are still concerns about the Pandora and ICP2 fiascos - people are wary of all the failed KickStarters etc. etc. etc. Until units start appearing in people's hands and software start to show how good the machine is, that's when the real push needs to be done. At the moment us pre-orderers are just test monkeys/guinea-pigs for this new and strange device that nobody trusts/knows about. Once bugs are identified and ironed out and the machine is starting to shine, that's when the larger market will appear to be interested - and that's when we really need to push. Let's face it, ED has never really needed to advertise to us - we'd buy pretty much whatever he has to offer; he's done such a good job with fixing the Pandora stuff that we all totally trust him.

Until then, they'll continue using emulators on their (cheaper) phones, because as you know they are more powerful and that automagically equates to betterer(tm).
 
The eleventh 24 hours of pre-orders is now up.

It seems we got :

350 Pre-orders the first 24 hours (350)
79 Pre-orders in the second 24 hours. (429)
49 Pre-orders in the third 24 hours (478) (Some double up Pre-orders were removed though)
29 Pre-orders in the fourth 24 hours (507)
18 Pre-orders in the fifth 24 hours (525)
26 Pre-orders in the sixth 24 hours (551)
12 Pre-orders in the seventh 24 hours (563)
10 Pre-orders in the eight 24 hours (573)
17 Pre-orders in the ninth 24 hours (590)
11 Pre-orders in the tenth 24 hours (601)
9 Pre-orders in the eleventh 24 hours (610) - Note , the number would have been higher, however a number of duplicate orders were removed.

Note: Daily figures also include converted Pre Pre-orders. As such , actual new pre-orders would be a little less than quoted figures.
 
The eleventh 24 hours of pre-orders is now up.

It seems we got :

350 Pre-orders the first 24 hours (350)
79 Pre-orders in the second 24 hours. (429)
49 Pre-orders in the third 24 hours (478) (Some double up Pre-orders were removed though)
29 Pre-orders in the fourth 24 hours (507)
18 Pre-orders in the fifth 24 hours (525)
26 Pre-orders in the sixth 24 hours (551)
12 Pre-orders in the seventh 24 hours (563)
10 Pre-orders in the eight 24 hours (573)
17 Pre-orders in the ninth 24 hours (590)
11 Pre-orders in the tenth 24 hours (601)
9 Pre-orders in the eleventh 24 hours (610) - Note , the number would have been higher, however a number of duplicate orders were removed.

Note: Daily figures also include converted Pre Pre-orders. As such , actual new pre-orders would be a little less than quoted figures.
At least the sales are still going. Even thou it's small, anything helps with getting it to the goal. If I could order a 2nd one I would
 
I wish I made 3000 eurobucks a day.

I guess as long as they are steadily trickling in things are going ok.
 
I wish I made 3000 eurobucks a day.

I guess as long as they are steadily trickling in things are going ok.

From a discussion on IRC, EvilDragon hinted that even with 1500 orders, he will still be at a loss...
 
From a discussion on IRC, EvilDragon hinted that even with 1500 orders, he will still be at a loss...
That sucks. So I guess he is counting on long term sales to break even. Or he really loves these things and this community.
 
makes sense, he's put a lot into the project already. hopefully some big news outlets will pick this up, and some new pyra prototype videos will be enticing.
 
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