PGS Windows 10 gaming handheld - GPD WIN competitor


Now backers are claiming people warning them are just GPD shills.

Happens every time someone posts something online that people don't want to hear.

As if GPD doesn't have better things to spend their money on than convincing people to not contribute to a KS project that is full of warning signs.
 
As a side note, GPD have banned posts about the PGS on their Chinese GPD forum. Wade, the GPD WIN project sponsor, stated that it wasn't because it's a competing device, but because he believes it's a hoax and doesn't want people to be suckered in by it. There's a thread he started there about it. People seem to have the same view and reiterate the feeling. Some funny enough , have quoted posts by members here and dingoonity , stating that even westerners believe it's dodgy.


Funny thing is, on Dingoonity, PGS showed us their final draft a day before they went live. We told them not to go ahead with that , stating the obvious violations to KS rules , lack of prototype etc. We also said that it would turn into a Coleco Chameleon type fiasco if they went ahead. And now the rest is history
 
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Oh dear, ED just weighed in on the PGS KS comments.


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Michael Mrozek (OpenPandora GmbH) less than a minute ago
I haven't written anything for a while, as I already stated my opinion and suggestíons a few days ago... but.. I just couldn't hold back. But this will be my last post here. Promised.

This is directed to all the Fanboys here:

Seriously, I love great ideas and awesome products. I love when a small team tries to accomplish something. I really, really do. I always loved small companies who try to achieve something more than a huge company just producing one thing after another.

I would LOVE it if the PGS would be real. It would be a great product.

And usually, I'd say it's great if a project has so many believers who defend it against trolls.

However, sometimes, you need to take off your pink glasses and look realistically at a project and posts.

Seriously, multiple experienced people who KNOW their stuff have expressed their concern about this project.
Too cheap, not enough time, no existing prototypes, just commercial videos and the only thing we know about the team is that they are experienced in creating movies and commercials.

All videos we've seen so far are fake, and that's a fact you can't deny.
The prototype is no prototype, it's an empty printed case with a 3rd party tablet and a game controller connected (something anyone can do within a couple of days).

You asked for game tests on the prototype, instead you get a video with stock music and random game trailers cut together.

The main video is professionally created - but what does it show, except for papers with designs, actors, stock footage and stock audio?

Yes, professional looking videos can deceive you easily, you automatically think that's real, as the video is so much convincingly.

But look at it again, think about it:
What they are trying to achieve within that little time, with that little money and most probably no experience is simply NOT possible. That's what multiple people who work in that business confirmed as well (myself included).

All those who you call "trolls" initially tried to warn you. Make you think about whether you really believe whether the goal can be achieved or not - or whether it's just a dream which could turn into a nightmare.

Ask yourself: What did PGS show you so far? What proof did you get that shows they know what they're doing?

* No prototype
* A team which does NOT have any proof to be experienced to pull this through
* A claim that they can increase the performance by 50% (yeah, right...)
* A video showing game trailers which had been "tested" to run on the prototype. Where is the proof for that?
* Changing stretch goals

It's been 2 weeks with tons of replies and 15 updates, but actually NOTHING new has happened.
You think much has happened? What? Just mention what REALLY has happened.

And seriously, you think GPD hired guys to troll here? Are you really thinking that?
Have I been hired by them as well? And all the other sceptical guys here?

I will leave you now, as said, I will not post again.
I just advise you to think everything through.
Are so many guys trolling, trying to rob you of your dream?
Or could it be they are warning you about it, as it is way too unrealistic, without any proof?

Think about it, as you won't be able getting your money back once Kickstarter is finished.

If you REALLY still believe in everything here, that's fine.
I don't want to FORCE anyone here to retract the money.

I just want to advise you to think everything through, that's all.

Thanks for reading, and I'm off :)"
 
oh harsh, this is such a trainwreck already. how can anyone still be so dellusional to believe this crap. I bet the idiot who edited that latest pgs video noticed missing those watermarks by now and is jumping around the "office" yelling and kicking himself ^^
 
I'm predicting that the whole thing will be pulled at the last minute due to negativity from competing companies' fans which caused too many people to retract their pledges, rendering the project non-viable, followed by a "This is why we can't have nice things" moral, couched in flowery language.
 
ED touched on a lot of things I feel. I would love for it to be made, especially by a small company, and there are some really good ideas. A good idea doesn't get you very far if you can't make it happen. Oh well...
 
It's mind boggling that without any proof how many people have backed them, and believe in them. It's sad really that this kickstarter has gotten this far without being shutdown. I'm sad for the backers who are going to lose money, I am angry that they won't listen to reasonable comments and call everyone that doesn't worship PGS trolls and haters. I have tried to give PGS the benefit of the doubt but they continually show nothing to prove they have anything planned. I don't even believe they have good intentions at this point and this isn't anything but a scam.
 
Looks like they gained back some numbers on the backers and money from when I checked a few hours ago.

If anyone reading this feels like giving away money please contact me.
 
Not sure how you read that. Yesterday was a decided step backwards in terms of funding at least, and today doesn't seem to be starting off in the right direction (for the founders at least):
 
Its certainly making for a very entertaining drama though- I'm enjoying it. The prototpye's lower case is entirely hollow, lol; and it does look like a tablet stuffed into a printed case. Coleco Sham-eleon eat you heart out.

It's somewhat of an indictment of human psychology that so many backed this and still extoll its apparent virtues.
 
Looks like they dipped below $350K . $350K was the stretch goal for the color-eink display. I wonder if that means a retraction on the announced they made re e-ink stretch goal being met.
 
Not sure how you read that. Yesterday was a decided step backwards in terms of funding at least, and today doesn't seem to be starting off in the right direction (for the founders at least):
It is updated regularly, so I check it every few hours. They were less in the hole when I posted that than they had been a few hours earlier (so they got new backers), however they lost even more since then, dropping lower than they were when I first checked.

Looks like they dipped below $350K . $350K was the stretch goal for the color-eink display. I wonder if that means a retraction on the announced they made re e-ink stretch goal being met.
I have been wondering how they would handle that since they started losing money, and that is why I was watching that graph.
[doublepost=1468471512,1468471393][/doublepost]And they are back over 350k again, as of right now.
 
$350,391, lowest I've seen. There is a sense of exitement in being so close to un-stretching that goal. It is though alarming what kind of behaviour you can get up to without being punished more severely.
That being said, there are multiple parties that can take PGS to court as it stands right now. They added a whole slew of rightsholders to that mix today.
 
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That video really upset me. Just amateur hour over there. Glad some people are realizing this is too good to be true. Go good guys!
 
That video really upset me. Just amateur hour over there. Glad some people are realizing this is too good to be true. Go good guys!


I noticed you went on a bit of a bender there. It seems the troll/hater thing got you seeing red also. :p


Have you noticed that what concerned people have posted, have had an effect sure, but not as much as PGS's own updates. They seem to be shooting themselves in the foot. That 3 days locked away to come up with a fan just sapped peoples confidence as did the demo on the PGS prototype which was just YT gameplay footage by the looks of it
 
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