BackAssward said:
Well, given that they have made hardware choices without posting video's before, I get the feel that MWeston isn't too happy with the 1mm analog, and wanted to see if the community agrees. I've been told that this is primarily a portable gaming and emulation device, and in that case, you'd want as much analog control as possible (some of the arguments against, sound like they are from people less interested in gaming, more in the UMPC aspect).
Even from a UMPC standpoint, 1mm movement for mouse control means either really slow movement, or really uncontrolable acceleration when the 1mm is reached. Also, any linux ports and other mouse based action games will not be able to effectively use them.
I strongly disagree with the second paragraph. To my mind a touch screen is more than enough to control mouse. Not all UMPCs have additional controls for mouse. So from the UMPC standpoint there's a question if we need additional mouse control. IMHO the answer is no.
Secondly, you name Linux games here, which is kinda of a trick I think, coz your main idea is to separate gaming and UMPCs pros and cons (if I get it right).
So from my point of view +1mm will mean NOTHING but a delay for the UMPC crowd.
<renegades statement> if you ask me, I don't need any nubs at all</renegades statement>
Ok, I replied to this twice by accident, then deleted one of my posts, then the mods deleted the original.. what luck (I don't blame them, just a matter of bad timing on our parts).
No, touch screen is not enough to play any *action* game with mouse, you need a mouse equivalent. As this is primarily a Gaming device, non gaming concerns should take second row to the gaming ones, and 1mm analog is not enough for gaming.
To compare it to a non-gaming UMPC with touch screen support is absurd, it is not meant to replace other UMPCs and needs a mouse equivalent. The fact that it is clamshell and not tablet indicates that most gaming input is to be from the base, including mouse input. I have no idea how one would play a FPS with the touch screen their primary input, it most definitely would not work. As I've said before, and you've confirmed, the majority of the people ok with 1mm analog are the UMPC crowd, not the gamers.
(Damn, my original response was better but deleted).
BTW, I am totally wanting to use this as a UMPC also, secondary to it's original purpose. But if I have to wait a little longer to have it be a proper gaming device, as opposed to castrating it's gaming abilities (and make it have only digital inputs like a GP2X), I will wait. Even if having custom analog controllers will increase it's price marginally, what is the complaint? It's a *custom device* by nature, if you want to argue it vs. other UMPC's, you've completely missed the point. It's design is in flux (the addition of Bluetooth, the need for a new SoC with proper USB support, the need for a new analog input)... really, what part of the nature of this thing have you missed?
It should be done right, it should be a gaming device before a UMPC, it should work and fulfill it's attended purpose when they deliver it... what part of that do you not get?
AFAIK this is how serious business work today. They offered a good usable Analog-Pad MONTHS ago and NOW that we need this part they can't make it? Come one, there was enough time for this. I'm sure they knew it since a longer time, that there is a problem with the old A-Pad.
