levi
Still fresh, damnit!
Mi na jimpe
Latest update: Keymats are here, how strong will the logo plate be - and pretty cases.
- Thread starter EvilDragon
- Start date
Confuzzled
Very Active Member
- Joined
- Oct 1, 2018
- Messages
- 301
Actually, if you speak to the Scots, Welsh, and Irish, it is a sign of English colonization. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a relatively recent political construction, and there is an interesting believable but false fact that of all the countries in the world, only about 20 have not been invaded at some point in their history by the English or their successors, the British (Something closer to truth is here: https://www.quora.com/How-accurate-...as-invaded-all-but-22-countries-in-the-world# ). It took a long and costly campaign to subdue the Welsh, and Welsh is still an official language of the UK. Other languages are still in use, such as Scots, Scots Gaelic, Ulster Scots, and Irish. There is long-standing multi-generational resentment against the English in Wales, Scotland, and Ireland. Note that the first official language of Ireland (the country) is Irish, even though most inhabitants speak primarily English.
Choosing to speak English when you are not being forced to by force of arms is an arguably reasonable course of action. You are not compelled to speak English, and intelligent English monoglots recognize this and appreciate that you make this choice.
λ the β-Redex Reducer
β-Redex Reducing Member
It's not Mandarin. Mandarin has a lot of speakers, but it's a poor international language because people outside of Asia are unlikely to know Mandarin. English on the other hand is known worldwide and for many countries it's the best language to know there right after those countries' native languages.
As for Chinese, that's not even a language.
Post automatically merged:
As for converting this forum, I think that I would like Ithkuil. I've read a bit about it and it seems pretty cool. Failing that I'd like people here to talk French so that I can practice it a bit.
Last edited:
Silent-Hunter
Hardcore Member
- Joined
- May 29, 2010
- Messages
- 3,485
I think English is a poor choice for an international language, because its rules are inconsistent.
Letalis Sonus
Advanced Member
- Joined
- Mar 5, 2009
- Messages
- 1,532
It is still a pretty simple language that is quite easy to learn. Many languages are an absolute nightmare - weird counting systems and cases that split up into more than just "one" and "more than one", insanely large amounts of tenses or even (grammatical!) genders, pronunciations that are so finely nuanced that you can't hear the difference between about 7 words with a completely different meaning...
I mean, just take German as an example. If you didn't grew up with it, chances are pretty high that you'll never fully figure out how to gender your nouns in your lifetime - while it hardly matters at all in the English language.
levi
Still fresh, damnit!
Lots of people's universes are so small that they only ever need to learn Mandarin Chinese. It's not an international language in any real sense of course, but I'd contend it's still a universal language for that reason.
As for Chinese not being a language, the chinese people I met in Beijing who could speak english seemed to think it was, and didn't even seem to know that Cantonese was spoken in Hong Kong. They called their language Chinese.
Nani? Moi you nyet verstehen!
Language also shapes the way you think. I think the Mayans had 4 binary states: Yes Absolutely, Yes Maybe, Maybe Not and No absolutely.
To convey an idea unambiguously, to order a machine to do things... well, Lojban is the best language so far.
To convey an idea unambiguously, to order a machine to do things... well, Lojban is the best language so far.
Djoga'Ro
moonstruck
- Joined
- Apr 3, 2016
- Messages
- 2,504
Nope. Just, nope!
ok ok... quaternary state then!
λ the β-Redex Reducer
β-Redex Reducing Member
Mandarin is universal if your whole universe is China.
RZR
Very Active Member
- Joined
- Sep 12, 2019
- Messages
- 113
Lucky me I have 2 native languages...
Da f*ck?
Veña non me fodas, ¿e agora teño que aguantar ó panchito este a falar en guachindango? Non lles chega con foder a marrana subtitulando no pseudoespañol que chaman latino... Agora tamén dalles por evanxelizar.
Venga no me jodas, ¿y ahora yo tengo que aguantar al panchito este hablando en guachindango? No les llega con joder la marrana subtitulando en el pseudoespañol que llaman latino... Ahora también les dá por evangelizar.
What the f*ck, and now I have to put up with this "panchito" (spanish slang for latin american) speaking "guachindango" (spanish slang for latin spanish)? Not only they dare to subtitle in the pseudospanish they call latino but now they also have to evangelize.
Pick your flavour.
Greinilega og án spurningar, er íslenzka það bezta tungumálið til þess að móðga aðra á netinu. Sjá:
Clearly and without question, is Icelandic the best language for insulting others on the internet. Behold:
„Ólánsmaður ertu, París, manna fríðastur sýnum, en hleypur sem galinn eftir hverri konu og ginnir þær. Eg vildi óska, að þú hefðir aldrei verið kvennýtur, og hefðir dáið ókvæntur. Þess vildi eg óska, og það hefði verið þér miklu betra, en að hafa á þér spott og fyrirlitning annarra manna. Hinir hárprúðu Akkear, sem gera sér í hug, að þú munir vera hraustasti maður til forgöngu, er þú ert svo fríður yfirlits, munu víst hlæja dátt, þegar engi reynist kjarkur í þér, og ekkert þrek. Eða varst þú það, ragmenni þitt, sem réðst til þín örugga fylgdarmenn, sigldir um haf á haffærum skipum, fórst á fund útlendra manna, og namst í burtu fríða konu, venzlaða hraustum hermönnum, til að verða föður þínum og borginni og allri þjóðinni til tjóns, óvinum til fagnaðar, en sjálfum þér til niðurlægingar og svívirðu? Viltu ekki bíða eftir Menelási, ástvini Aresar? Þá muntu komast að raun um, hvað manni það er, sem átti þá ungu konu, er þú hefir nú tekið. Það hygg eg, að þá muni ekki hörpuslátturinn stoða þig, og ekki ástgjafir Afrodítu, hárið og fríðleikurinn, þegar þú værir að veltast í moldinni. Væru Trójumenn ekki svo huglausir, sem þeir eru, mundir þú fyrir löngu kominn í grjótstakk fyrir slysin, sem af þér hafa hlotizt“.
"A sorry wretch are you, Paris, prettiest in looks of men, but who runs mad after every woman and beguiles them. I would wish that you had never been of use to women and had died unmarried. That would I wish, and had been much better for you, than to suffer the jeers and scorn of other men. Those well-coifed Akkeans, that assume you to be the most vigourous of men, as you are so pretty of appearance, will surely laugh raucously when there proves no daring in you, and no stamina. Or were you he, vile coward, which gathered to you trusty companions, sailed the sea on seaworthy ships, came upon a gathering of outland men and snatched away a pretty woman, kin to vigourous warriors, to cause your father, city and whole nation calamity, the cheering of enemies but to yourself humilation and scandal? Don't you want to await Menelaus, beloved of Ares? Then will you approach the truth of what it means to the man that owned that young woman that you have now taken. That think I, that then will not the lyre-chiming help you, nor the fond gifts of Aphrodite, the hair and beauty, when you would tumble in the mud. Were Trojans not so lacking of courage as they are, would you long ago have come into a tomb, because of the disaster you caused.
Virðing sé til þess er þekkir textann.
May respect be given to he who recognises the text.
;-)
Clearly and without question, is Icelandic the best language for insulting others on the internet. Behold:
„Ólánsmaður ertu, París, manna fríðastur sýnum, en hleypur sem galinn eftir hverri konu og ginnir þær. Eg vildi óska, að þú hefðir aldrei verið kvennýtur, og hefðir dáið ókvæntur. Þess vildi eg óska, og það hefði verið þér miklu betra, en að hafa á þér spott og fyrirlitning annarra manna. Hinir hárprúðu Akkear, sem gera sér í hug, að þú munir vera hraustasti maður til forgöngu, er þú ert svo fríður yfirlits, munu víst hlæja dátt, þegar engi reynist kjarkur í þér, og ekkert þrek. Eða varst þú það, ragmenni þitt, sem réðst til þín örugga fylgdarmenn, sigldir um haf á haffærum skipum, fórst á fund útlendra manna, og namst í burtu fríða konu, venzlaða hraustum hermönnum, til að verða föður þínum og borginni og allri þjóðinni til tjóns, óvinum til fagnaðar, en sjálfum þér til niðurlægingar og svívirðu? Viltu ekki bíða eftir Menelási, ástvini Aresar? Þá muntu komast að raun um, hvað manni það er, sem átti þá ungu konu, er þú hefir nú tekið. Það hygg eg, að þá muni ekki hörpuslátturinn stoða þig, og ekki ástgjafir Afrodítu, hárið og fríðleikurinn, þegar þú værir að veltast í moldinni. Væru Trójumenn ekki svo huglausir, sem þeir eru, mundir þú fyrir löngu kominn í grjótstakk fyrir slysin, sem af þér hafa hlotizt“.
"A sorry wretch are you, Paris, prettiest in looks of men, but who runs mad after every woman and beguiles them. I would wish that you had never been of use to women and had died unmarried. That would I wish, and had been much better for you, than to suffer the jeers and scorn of other men. Those well-coifed Akkeans, that assume you to be the most vigourous of men, as you are so pretty of appearance, will surely laugh raucously when there proves no daring in you, and no stamina. Or were you he, vile coward, which gathered to you trusty companions, sailed the sea on seaworthy ships, came upon a gathering of outland men and snatched away a pretty woman, kin to vigourous warriors, to cause your father, city and whole nation calamity, the cheering of enemies but to yourself humilation and scandal? Don't you want to await Menelaus, beloved of Ares? Then will you approach the truth of what it means to the man that owned that young woman that you have now taken. That think I, that then will not the lyre-chiming help you, nor the fond gifts of Aphrodite, the hair and beauty, when you would tumble in the mud. Were Trojans not so lacking of courage as they are, would you long ago have come into a tomb, because of the disaster you caused.
Virðing sé til þess er þekkir textann.
May respect be given to he who recognises the text.
;-)
ible
professional vim user
i would have preferred a fifth: pure maybe (neither yes nor no). a fifth element, as it were. the most ambivalent and apathetic maybe.
spud42
Very Active Member
google translate absolutely ruins this passage...
mrpalmtop
Very Active Member
- Joined
- Mar 14, 2014
- Messages
- 134
Looks like a machine-translated Icelandic rendition of Homer's Iliad. That English version is the 2nd generation machine translation. GIGO.
rSl
tealifted
- Joined
- Nov 19, 2005
- Messages
- 1,141
