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I disagree. People who refuse to speak the international language (which English has become) and instead insist on speaking only their own language would mostly shoot themselves in the foot.
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Still they will be right to do it.
I think speaking English is sign of british colonization, and it is nothing to be proud of.
 

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Still they will be right to do it.
I think speaking English is sign of british colonization, and it is nothing to be proud of.
I do it mostly for respect to others, that don't understand my native language.
 

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Still they will be right to do it.
I think speaking English is sign of british colonization, and it is nothing to be proud of.
Bueno, entonces si quieres empezamos cada uno a hablar nuestro propio idioma a ver quien es el chulo que se entera. Y no, no me vengas con putas mariconadas como el Google Translate por que entonces estamos en las mismas. Además Google es una empresa americana, lo cual significaría que estás usando tecnología Americana lo cual es un signo de apoderación gringa y pisoteo cultural, ¿no? Entiendo que como Indio lo sientas así pero, ¡sorpresa! El mundo no se acaba en India. Y como en todo, o te subes al carro y lo asumes o te quedas en la estocada solo y muriendo.
 

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I think the Problem is: Lots of European Countrys got anything in the past thats cause its Language to be awefull for other Peaple,
German par exemple was spoken by our Grandparents when they brought the Second World War over Europe and made the Holocaust happen,
So there are Peaple in Israel now, who are anoying when a German Politic like Angela Merkel speaks in the Israel Parlament in German..
 

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Bueno, entonces si quieres empezamos cada uno a hablar nuestro propio idioma a ver quien es el chulo que se entera. Y no, no me vengas con putas mariconadas como el Google Translate por que entonces estamos en las mismas. Además Google es una empresa americana, lo cual significaría que estás usando tecnología Americana lo cual es un signo de apoderación gringa y pisoteo cultural, ¿no? Entiendo que como Indio lo sientas así pero, ¡sorpresa! El mundo no se acaba en India. Y como en todo, o te subes al carro y lo asumes o te quedas en la estocada solo y muriendo.
ઊંધો અર્થ કાઢવાની જરૂર નથી. મેં એટલું જ કહ્યુ જેટલું મેં કહ્યુ. ;)
 

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Oh no, the Tower of Babel all over again. Naja, unterhalten wir uns halt in unseren Muttersprachen weiter.
 

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Still they will be right to do it.
I think speaking English is sign of british colonization, and it is nothing to be proud of.
What's the problem with that? I do not think it's really something to be ashamed of either.

I'd rather have a little bit of British colonisation then have all Pyra news be in German, all Linux kernel development be in Finnish, and more than 90% of the books I own in a language that I do not understand. It's a blessing to humanity as a whole to have an universal language, and English just won the lottery to be that language.

ઊંધો અર્થ કાઢવાની જરૂર નથી. મેં એટલું જ કહ્યુ જેટલું મેં કહ્યુ. ;)
Is that your native language? It kind of remind me of Tamil, but Tamil script is prettier IMO.
 

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What's the problem with that? I do not think it's really something to be ashamed of either.
You are changing my words. "ashamed of" is not the same as "not proud of".
I have full respect for anyone speaking his/her native language.

I'd rather have a little bit of British colonisation then have all Pyra news be in German, all Linux kernel development be in Finnish, and more than 90% of the books I own in a language that I do not understand. It's a blessing to humanity as a whole to have an universal language, and English just won the lottery to be that language.
Heavy price to pay for little gains.
 

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You are changing my words. "ashamed of" is not the same as "not proud of".
It seems like a misunderstanding is going on. I was not correcting you, I was agreeing that it's nothing to be proud of and adding to that that it's nothing to be ashamed of either. Thus my point was that pride is irrelevant. I speak English and am happy with it purely because of pragmatism.

Heavy price to pay for little gains.
Which brings me back to my question, what is the price? What are the disadvantages of everyone speaking English? British colonisation is too vague for me to understand what you mean.

Though I do regret countries losing their culture. Thanks to the ability of people to mix, cultures get mixed too. I like places that have a strong identity and a distinct culture. But nowadays most cultures are becoming more and more like America's culture, which is mostly just about hedonistic greed and gluttony with a McDonalds on every corner. IMO it's hardly a culture at all, and since my own country is filled with it as well it's one I quickly tire of. My country lost it's culture many decades ago.
 

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I think speaking English is sign of british colonization, and it is nothing to be proud of.
I'd say the American imperialism during the cold war era was what really gave the language the final push to become the international language, though - American English is pretty much the most favoured variant in non English speaking countries after all. Before that German was pretty close to get that title as well, as it was the language of science back then - that's where all those very specific German words in the English vocabulary originate from. As a related trivia, the Muhlenberg Legend claims that there was a vote to make German the official language of the US or one of its states, which failed by only a single vote.
 

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I vote to use esperanto as official language in the forum.

Not that I know it anyhow but it is an interesting idea.

And as someone from a country with multiple languages in use I can assure you that this thread is going to upset some people.
 

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Still they will be right to do it.
I think speaking English is sign of british colonization, and it is nothing to be proud of.
Actually, if you speak to the Scots, Welsh, and Irish, it is a sign of English colonization. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a relatively recent political construction, and there is an interesting believable but false fact that of all the countries in the world, only about 20 have not been invaded at some point in their history by the English or their successors, the British (Something closer to truth is here: https://www.quora.com/How-accurate-...as-invaded-all-but-22-countries-in-the-world# ). It took a long and costly campaign to subdue the Welsh, and Welsh is still an official language of the UK. Other languages are still in use, such as Scots, Scots Gaelic, Ulster Scots, and Irish. There is long-standing multi-generational resentment against the English in Wales, Scotland, and Ireland. Note that the first official language of Ireland (the country) is Irish, even though most inhabitants speak primarily English.

Choosing to speak English when you are not being forced to by force of arms is an arguably reasonable course of action. You are not compelled to speak English, and intelligent English monoglots recognize this and appreciate that you make this choice.
 

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Except when it's Mandarin Chinese.
It's not Mandarin. Mandarin has a lot of speakers, but it's a poor international language because people outside of Asia are unlikely to know Mandarin. English on the other hand is known worldwide and for many countries it's the best language to know there right after those countries' native languages.

As for Chinese, that's not even a language.
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As for converting this forum, I think that I would like Ithkuil. I've read a bit about it and it seems pretty cool. Failing that I'd like people here to talk French so that I can practice it a bit.
 
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