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Should davesha skip the queue so he can work directly on the Pyra?

  • Yes

    Votes: 174 99.4%
  • No

    Votes: 1 0.6%

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matzesu

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Beside this whole SATA Discussion, EvilDragon meantioned something like that the first 200 Units get assembled on GC as Trainy Programm for the Employes, so dos this mean my Number 28 in Dark Chrome gets assembled in a more professional way, or dos this means it may got assempled less professional because the Employe who assempled it needs much more experience ?

As i reassambled a big part of my Pandora myself after this incident, i think the Pyra would be definitly much more proffessinal ^^
 

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Now I wonder whether it is possible to get a unassembled pyra as a DIY kit...

Well, knowing my fine motor skills, or rather lack thereof, I'd only mess it up.
 

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Would be just to complex to shipp these Parts, also its not that easy to get a warranty on such a DIY Kit, as you cant sell Electronic Parts whitout Warranty in Germany,
What would happen if you screw something up, and in 2 Months (tm), your LCD Cable broke, ??

Whit the Changable CPU Board, its not a Problem if you Open your Pyra, and this may not avoid your warranty,
And on the Pandora, there was no seal that gets broke if you screw it open (had to fix my Shoulderbuttons some multible times),
So the Pyra may be quite hacking friendly, but assembly is a bit diverent than just open up the Bottompart
 

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I actually like that it's an internal port. It will make it easy to use the Pyra to mount an internal drive for data recovery. And it's not hard to find USB to internal SATA power cables.
Just in case someone might not realize, USB to SATA power cables will only work for 2.5 inch drives. You'd need to do something else for any 3.5 inch drives you wanted to connect.
 

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If you don't choose a color other than the original one, what is the original color of the Pyra, please ??? :$
 

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What if i live in Europa and whe dont have inch ,
Whe only have metric
Metric is superior! Metric grows in multiples of 10 or 1000, while inches grow in random multiples and completely change name, there's no system behind Imperial. The imperial system is made for retards who want to use their thumbs and feet for measuring and do not know that different people have different sizes thumbs and feet. Metric is made by smart people who know that multiplying in the same base that is used for writing out numbers is easy and who know that a system which uses a few rules to create many units by making use of their relations to each other is superior to making a completely arbitrary name for each separate unit.

The only reasons that many USA folk defend Imperial system is because of nationalism, they are too proud to see how retarded their system is. It's OK USA folk, just because your country uses a retarded system does not make you retarded. You can still be smart and use the superior system.

Though of course base 10 is stupid too. It's not a highly composite number and is thus inefficient in how many fractions it can finitely represent. Most notably, it cannot even represent 1/3 in decimal. The superior system is Dozenal which gives loads of fractions for how small a number it is. No smaller number has more fractions. So the really really smart people use dozenal and a metric system using powers of 12 as multipliers. AFAIK no country is that smart as of now.

I hope that one day we wil become enlightened and move to the superior dozenal system. Sexagesimal would be good too. But not decimal. Decimal is for retards who need their fingers to count and are too stupid to even do that properly. (if you use your thumb to point to finger segments then you can count to 12 on each hand. But this is too complicated for base 10 lovers.)
 

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What if i live in Europa and whe dont have inch ,
Whe only have metric
Easy; when someone says 3.5" drive, think 14699x10^-2mm by 10185x10^-2mm by 2611x10^-2mm (length, width, then height if mounted horizontally)
And when they say 2.5" drive, they mean exactly 100mm by 6985x10^-2 by one of 5, 7, 95x10-1, 125x10-1, 15 or 19 millimeters

Easier than remembering that a 3.5inch drive is actually 575x10^-2 by 4 by 1 inches, and a 2.5inch drive is actually 3964x10-2 by 275x10^-2 by various heights. The actual platters inside I'd expect to be closer to their indicated designation, but I've never actually measured one.
 

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Though of course base 10 is stupid too. It's not a highly composite number and is thus inefficient in how many fractions it can finitely represent. Most notably, it cannot even represent 1/3 in decimal. The superior system is Dozenal which gives loads of fractions for how small a number it is. No smaller number has more fractions. So the really really smart people use dozenal and a metric system using powers of 12 as multipliers. AFAIK no country is that smart as of now.

I hope that one day we wil become enlightened and move to the superior dozenal system. Sexagesimal would be good too. But not decimal. Decimal is for retards who need their fingers to count and are too stupid to even do that properly. (if you use your thumb to point to finger segments then you can count to 12 on each hand. But this is too complicated for base 10 lovers.)
You can count up to 31 on each hand. (Binary). Also, many number systems are vigesimal. The Mayan number system was basically vigesimal, and there are remnants of vigesimal in Danish, French and English counting systems (think of the King James Bible setting the lifespan of a man to threescore years and ten (KJV, Psalms 90 v10)). There are definite (human) advantages to duodecimal/dozenal and sexagesimal counting systems, but the vast majority of arithmetic operations these days are performed in binary, by machines aka computers.
 

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What about hexadecimal?
That's good for systems that are based on some positive power of 2.

Measurement system =/= positional system. The derailment is getting derailed.
Metric system uses multipliers that are integer powers of 10 because we use a base 10 positional system. They're connected. That is what makes the metric system easy to use.
Though in the case of the brain dead imperial system the base of the positional system does not matter. It's always difficult to deal with because it's an arbitrary mess.

You can count up to 31 on each hand. (Binary).
You could but you may attract some anger when you reach 4.
 

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Woops! This was a reply to Lambda.

:)

I don't agree with what you wrote here. What you wrote is overly broad and lacks context. Here is what you missed:

1) Imperial == base 12

Base 12 counting is probably something like 10 000 years old, maybe older. The ancients used various types of counting systems but THEY NEVER used base 10.

The reason for that is that base 12 is perfect for low technology and relative precision types of industries and where you simply double numbers or halve them in fractions and that is good enough. So, for example, building ancient roads, ancient bridges and so forth is just good enough for the kinds of tolerences they worked with. Even today, in North America, we make houses to fairly crude tolerences of 1/16th of an inch at the most.

So, just consider that base 12 is designed for the kinds of normal things ancient and current people build, used by people whose kings and queens had less education than our grade 4 students.

On top of that, you have to consider that the upper bound for the amount of things that most regular people needed to count up to was 60 and base 12 fractions and multiplies nicely up and down 0 to 60 at reasonable and easy to understood tolerences that allowed ancient people to build small buildings, roads, houses, castles, roman bridges and even the pyramids without any education whatsoever. You can train someone to use base 12 with no knowledge of numbers or reading in a few hours because it is intrinsic to how use the tools them selves. You cannot do that with metric.

Imperial really is an amazing counting system.

2) Metric == base 10

What most people don't know is that metric WAS NOT created because 1234567890 and just add a 0 to get a multiple is easier. Metric WAS NOT CREATED BECAUSE IT WAS BETTER. Metric was created in France as a POLITICAL STATEMENT as a result of all of the historical events leading up to the end of the French revolution and the overthrow of French aristocracy.

Metric is a political statement by the unedcuated masses of the French of that period rebelling against all systems imposed on them by a 1000 years of French aristocracy with some bullshit mixed in by the various movements that were around that time like the Enlightenment.

Add to that that NO ANCIENT HUMAN CIVILIZATION ever invented base 10 because base 10 naturally imposes arbitrary levels of decimal pracision for most calculations. So, beyond the basic counting up and down by one or a multiple of 10, most of base 10 is not easily divisible without introducing arbitrarily large decimal precision.

3) At high enough levels of precision, neither metric nor imperial make any difference. I worked as a machinist when I was young. I could mill and lathe anything of almost any shape (except organic shapes you can now do easily with cad based systems) to 2 / 1000s of an inch. We often did military work and they would sometimes require 2thou or 3 thou precision which was pretty fucking silly as most work was between 5thou and 10thou (10 thousands of an inch).

But, if I was working in metric, it made no difference because the measuring tools provided the readouts to the x.xxxxx mounts of precision and calculators did the calculation.

In the modern world where high precision engineering is a huge part of our economy, base 12 is fine and base 10 is fine. Base 10 only has one advantage in that the rest of the world is standardized on it, I am fine with ingoring the rest of the world.

4) People who think that Americans don't want to switch to metric for political reasons have no clue what they are talking about.

Imperial is the measuring system of ancient tradition of craftsmen and users who have a noble and practical need to make normal life things and keep politics out of the trades while metric is EXPLICITLY created for political reasons and ONLY political reasons.

Did you guys know the French tried to make the daily clock a base 10 clock and throw away the base 12 clock that we use now? This did not happen because normal people rebelled and nearly killed those that tried to impose it BECAUSE they realized that a base 10 clock is stupid.


Summary: The French are dumb (tm).

:)

Hehehe!
 
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