It reminds me of the Pandora!

[Phlyra]

Not sure if you all saw this, it was linked on Discord by Swordfish II.

DragonBox Pyra handheld Linux gaming PC begins shipping soon - Liliputing

DragonBox Pyra handheld Linux gaming PC begins shipping soon

liliputing.com

Basically, there's a new Pyra article, and it's about as positive as a wet sock.

Looks like the comments section could do with some contributions from people on here...

 

[Null]

To be fair, I have trouble spelling Polish surnames too.

Who decided "mr" would be a good consonant blend?

Cat on Computer Keyboard

vid.mint.lgbt

 

[Djoga'Ro]

I don’t know how „Schema“ is written in English

scheme (spricht sich "skiem" (also wie in "school" nicht wie Ski))

Who decided "mr" would be a good consonant blend?

Maybe there was a vowel in between once that disappeared over time.

 

[KickAss]

its funny how someone over there described the pyra as an ugly device while over here the majority of ppl would agree that it looks cool.

the article reads like:
"yeah we appreciate the effort, but meh."

and to be fair: that bug and its implications would totally throw me off as well.

 

[RZR]

Not sure if you all saw this, it was linked on Discord by Swordfish II.

DragonBox Pyra handheld Linux gaming PC begins shipping soon - Liliputing

DragonBox Pyra handheld Linux gaming PC begins shipping soon

liliputing.com

Basically, there's a new Pyra article, and it's about as positive as a wet sock.

Well, opinions are like as***... Every project has to live with negative opinions. Not a product fits every taste out there, that's why you usually have several options.

Regarding hardware bug that prevents the use of built in power management... If true, well, that can also be done with software. In fact, power management must be tuned for every application, we don't know if the built in power management features of that CPU would be the fittest for this product either, so it's not a deal breaker for me.

 

[PowerGod]

It didn't seem to me a harsh review, it actually listed things as they actually are. The only thing I don't know about is the mentioned idle bug.

 

[levi]

It also lists the unit as being available in a configuration with only 2GB of RAM. I think that changed just pre-lockdown to remove those units from the listing.

 

[ible]

does Brad know something we don't?? ED don't keep us in suspense! speak up and take our money!

 

[Phlyra]

Looks like the comments section could do with some contributions from people on here...

Guessing the comments by “Sword” = @Swordfish II ?

Is it now possible for someone who currently has a Pyra to provide an answer to this comment:
“I wonder how long this thing can even load an Amazon product page or some “mainstream” news site (ie. those typically badly coded/bloated sites) where even my Surface Go 1 LTE can take annoyingly long to load. How about loading multiple of them at the same time?”

 

[monty]

Guessing the comments by “Sword” = @Swordfish II ?

Is it now possible for someone who currently has a Pyra to provide an answer to this comment:
“I wonder how long this thing can even load an Amazon product page or some “mainstream” news site (ie. those typically badly coded/bloated sites) where even my Surface Go 1 LTE can take annoyingly long to load. How about loading multiple of them at the same time?”

Its hardly an answer, but hopefully most people on this forum and others like it have long ago realised that visiting one of those websites without extensions like Privacy Badger, even NoScript, is just inviting a world of pain, no matter your computer.

 

[johnicboom]

Its hardly an answer, but hopefully most people on this forum and others like it have long ago realised that visiting one of those websites without extensions like Privacy Badger, even NoScript, is just inviting a world of pain, no matter your computer.

Yeah, I haven't used a browser without ublock origin blocking virtually everything it can in years.

 

[KickAss]

lynx will save the day.

 

[RZR]

Guessing the comments by “Sword” = @Swordfish II ?

Is it now possible for someone who currently has a Pyra to provide an answer to this comment:
“I wonder how long this thing can even load an Amazon product page or some “mainstream” news site (ie. those typically badly coded/bloated sites) where even my Surface Go 1 LTE can take annoyingly long to load. How about loading multiple of them at the same time?”

@TrashyMG has a lot of videos of an OMAP5 devboard on YouTube running several things:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcWp82N820P_Nq7Kdodj0ngnQc57txBFj

For instance:


On the Pyra it could be different (thermal constraint, power constraint on battery, thermal management...) but I think it will be close, or at least the closer until we put our hands on an actual retail unit.

 

[EvilDragon]

Is it now possible for someone who currently has a Pyra to provide an answer to this comment:
“I wonder how long this thing can even load an Amazon product page or some “mainstream” news site (ie. those typically badly coded/bloated sites) where even my Surface Go 1 LTE can take annoyingly long to load. How about loading multiple of them at the same time?”

Well, the current Facebook site loads fine and fast on my Pyra. Same for other websites I tried, newssites, etc.

 

[oskda]

If there is enough Pyra users interested, it would be nice to be able buy an "accesory": spare LCD display for Pyra without resistive touch-screen layer because those layers add a lot of irregular reflection to display (at the same time it lower brightness a bit). It can be appreciated in this picture, and I know about that problem as I owned a lot of other devices with resistive touch displays a lot of time ago (Palm-type to PocketPC PDA, to Nintendo DS to Zaurus SL-C).

We would lost touch display, but I think it would not be so bad in Pyra as there are other ways to control cursor, and I think I lost more with those reflections than without pen use.

And if we are enough, and ED can shop it, it would be other source of income to the shop, more benefit from Pyra sales. I don't know the minimum number of users interested to make this profitable (it would be same BOE LCD screen but without resistive layer applied; that layer was in fact an addition to original BOE screen).

 

[oskda]

Ah ok but ditnt whe also had a Debian Text Editor? (I can remember it was Notepad or something)

Dear matzesu: There are a lot of available editors in Debian, for console and for graphical mode:
https://wiki.debian.org/TextEditor

It may be you refer to gedit (it is included by default for GUI mode in Ubuntu), but there are a lot of other much more powerful plain-text editors. gedit is very simple, and when you need to do more work on a plain-text file, it is totally ineffective.

I think Vim and Emacs are best plain-text editors, and you can use them in console or GUI, but you need time to learn them. nano on opposite side is small and simple. gedit can only be used in GUI mode, and sometimes you don't have GUI started, so it is nice to be used to a editor not depending on GUI mode.

 

[oskda]

Not sure if you all saw this, it was linked on Discord by Swordfish II.

DragonBox Pyra handheld Linux gaming PC begins shipping soon - Liliputing

DragonBox Pyra handheld Linux gaming PC begins shipping soon

liliputing.com

Basically, there's a new Pyra article, and it's about as positive as a wet sock.

For me the worst part is this:

there’s a hardware bug in the OMAP5 processor that prevents low-power idle mode, so the Pyra only gets about 10 hours of battery life in standby, and significantly less under heavy use

Is this bug solved or reasonably avoided?

Is this bug commented in a entrance in Pyra Forums, and where is it?

 

[oskda]

Looks like the comments section could do with some contributions from people on here...

I did: someone said «Seems like an awfully slow cpu! There’s a reason most other brands go with an rk 33xx cpu».

And I said:

Rockchip 33xx are slower than that OMAP5 at least in mono-core use.

For example RK3308 uses Cortex-A35, much less powerful than Cortex-A15 in OMPA5.

RK3368 uses Cortex-A55, while Cortex-A15 is much more powerful.

Cortex-A15 yields 3.5 to 4.01 DMIPS/MHz. It was top line with 15 stage integer/17–25 stage floating point pipeline, with out-of-order speculative issue 3-way superscalar execution pipeline.

Cortex-A35 yields 1.78 DMIPS/MHz, and Cortex-A53 yields 2.24 DMIPS/MHz. Both are 8 stage with in-order 2-way superescalar execution pipeline.

Cortex-A15 was top line in 32-bits ARM, while Cortex-A35/A53 are low line in 64-bits ARM.

People think Cortex-A15 is slow, when really it is faster and more powerful than a lot of actual 64-bit ARM cores. For example Cortex-A53, used in a lot of devices is slower although being 64-bits.

 

[levi]

I think Vim and Emacs are best plain-text editors, and you can use them in console or GUI, but you need time to learn them.

I used emacs throughtout my undergraduate career, and struggled with it's arcane keycodes. I picked up vim when I started work, after a few years struggling with the editor in intellisense. The only thing you really need to learn to use it is that it's modal; before you can type into the doc you need to enter insert mode which is done using the 'i' key, and you use Escape to get out of any mode and back to the default (I used to end up in visual mode by accident quite often, to being able to smack that Esc key and all sanity is restored was very handy). On top of that you start to learn cool things you can do, the first one that grabbed me was the . (dot) command. If you do your editing the vi way and not by entering insert mode and changing the text on the fly, you can use dot to repeat that command wherever you are in the document when you next press the dot key. For example, if you want to change the last two words on the line, go to the start of those two words and type c2w and you can then type in the replacement, ending by hitting Escape. Move somewhere else and press dot and it'll change those two words as well.

I also use gvim sometimes, which is the graphical version. The one in my terminal doesn't seem to have access to the system clipboard, so if I need to yank and paste anything between apps I need to use gvim.

 

[Silent-Hunter]

I think Vim and Emacs are best plain-text editors, and you can use them in console or GUI, but you need time to learn them. nano on opposite side is small and simple. gedit can only be used in GUI mode, and sometimes you don't have GUI started, so it is nice to be used to a editor not depending on GUI mode.

My favorite editors are Emacs, Vi, Geany, and TECO.