Gpx2 Unvailed!!


onionfrog posted on Jul 30 2005 at 12:55 AM said:
Umm... :unsure:
*points at sig...*
I'm not worrying...

Gamepark Holdings says they are doing some emulators...

Plus Reesy seems interested... :)


I'll certainly be buying on sometime within the next year... :)


So now we will be BUYING emulators? And they will only work on ONE unit, Bah! I will wait for the open ones.
 
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Ooops, I phrased what i said wrong.. I dont plan to buy emulators i was talking about buying a gpx2...
Although gamepark may charge for the emulators..
But we dont know that yet...
So I'm not gonna worry about it...
 
Chip confirmed:

Dear customer

Thank you for your interest in gpx2.
We use MMSP chip for gpx2.:))


I suppose she means MMSP2.



Question: Will the emulators be free or commercial?


Dear customer

Thank you for your interest in gpx2.
Although we havent had concrete plan, there would be either way.

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DaveC posted on Jul 29 2005 at 10:16 PM said:
onionfrog posted on Jul 30 2005 at 12:55 AM said:
Umm... :unsure:
*points at sig...*
I'm not worrying...

Gamepark Holdings says they are doing some emulators...

Plus Reesy seems interested... :)


I'll certainly be buying on sometime within the next year... :)


So now we will be BUYING emulators? And they will only work on ONE unit, Bah! I will wait for the open ones.
You know, you donated to the dev if you liked the emu anyway... you're just disagreeing to disagree now.

Just think of it as donating, if you don't like the idea of paying. GPH could deserve a donation or two seeing as they helped make the greatest handheld ever. :)
 
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shinneri posted on Jul 30 2005 at 03:24 AM said:
DaveC posted on Jul 29 2005 at 10:16 PM said:
onionfrog posted on Jul 30 2005 at 12:55 AM said:
Umm... :unsure:
*points at sig...*
I'm not worrying...

Gamepark Holdings says they are doing some emulators...

Plus Reesy seems interested... :)


I'll certainly be buying on sometime within the next year... :)


So now we will be BUYING emulators? And they will only work on ONE unit, Bah! I will wait for the open ones.
You know, you donated to the dev if you liked the emu anyway... you're just disagreeing to disagree now.

Just think of it as donating, if you don't like the idea of paying. GPH could deserve a donation or two seeing as they helped make the greatest handheld ever. :)

Actually I don't mind the paying part as much. What I HATE is when you buy these things they are DRMed to ONE unit. This means you are not free to move them between systems without asking big brothers permission.

Say for example you buy emus, then your GPx2 breaks and you replace it , all of you stuff stops working and is rendered useless. I hate that. I like the freedom of being able to use my software on ANY Gpx2 present or future without annoying copy protection shit.

I will just wait and donate to the open ones.
 
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DaveC posted on Jul 30 2005 at 06:06 AM said:
I will just wait and donate to the open ones.

I don't see your point. You can't stop writing that the GPX2 is a pile of shit and you'll buy it? That's hipocrisy.
 
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A600 posted on Jul 30 2005 at 04:48 AM said:
DaveC posted on Jul 30 2005 at 06:06 AM said:
I will just wait and donate to the open ones.

I don't see your point. You can't stop writing that the GPX2 is a pile of shit and you'll buy it? That's hipocrisy.


Maybe maybe not. I will wait until there are decent working emus before I jump on it. If the emus aren't much better than the current GP32 then meh.
 
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DaveC posted on Jul 30 2005 at 12:06 AM said:
Actually I don't mind the paying part as much.  What I HATE is when you buy these things they are DRMed to ONE unit.  This means you are not free to move them between systems without asking big brothers permission. 

Say for example you buy emus, then your GPx2 breaks and you replace it , all of you stuff stops working and is rendered useless.  I hate that.  I like the freedom of being able to use my software on ANY Gpx2 present or future without annoying copy protection shit.

I will just wait and donate to the open ones.
Alright, I'll accept that response. I only plan to have one unit, really, so this never bothered me, but I can understand why it would.

I would assume that, considering the build quality of the gp32 (which was really good), the gpx2 shouldn't break too easy, though. ;)
 
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DaveC posted on Jul 30 2005 at 12:16 AM said:
A600 posted on Jul 30 2005 at 04:48 AM said:
DaveC posted on Jul 30 2005 at 06:06 AM said:
I will just wait and donate to the open ones.

I don't see your point. You can't stop writing that the GPX2 is a pile of shit and you'll buy it? That's hipocrisy.


Maybe maybe not. I will wait until there are decent working emus before I jump on it. If the emus aren't much better than the current GP32 then meh.
I pretty Much agree with daveC about this..
We will wait and see...
 
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shinneri posted on Jul 30 2005 at 05:20 AM said:
DaveC posted on Jul 30 2005 at 12:06 AM said:
Actually I don't mind the paying part as much.  What I HATE is when you buy these things they are DRMed to ONE unit.   This means you are not free to move them between systems without asking big brothers permission. 

Say for example you buy emus, then your GPx2 breaks and you replace it , all of you stuff stops working and is rendered useless.  I hate that.  I like the freedom of being able to use my software on ANY Gpx2 present or future without annoying copy protection shit.

I will just wait and donate to the open ones.
Alright, I'll accept that response. I only plan to have one unit, really, so this never bothered me, but I can understand why it would.

I would assume that, considering the build quality of the gp32 (which was really good), the gpx2 shouldn't break too easy, though. ;)


There are many situations where this is not good.

1) you could buy this thing buy emus for it. then need the money and sell it. Then at a later date buy another only to discover you emus don't work on you new one :angry:

2) You could buy it and the emus only to lose/drop/have stolen the unit, again no worky on replacement.

3) You could buy the unit/emus and everything is fine for 3 years. It wears out or breaks, again no work on replacement.

4) You actually might have two and want to use the emus on either one. Maybe you want a white one and a black one.

Another example using the Zodiac (Zodiac was BIG on DRM). You buy a Zodiac load it with DRM locked games/apps etc. Your unit breaks. You buy a replacement on eBay. Tapwave is gone so you can't re-register the apps, you are now fucked out of hundreds of dollars in software that you legally bought, unacceptable.

The point is there are the DRM limits your freedom, I don't like that. If I buy it I should be able to use it on any unit I like any time.
 
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I totally agree with DaveC. I bought Dungeon and Guarder from JoyGP, but due to a lack a place in my SMC i delete it, and a Window problem :ph34r: deleted my data on my HDD. Ok you can say "you should have buyed a SMC game", but the JoyGP system was cheap. I have paid for this game and now i can not play, esp that JoyGP is down.
 
DaveC posted on Jul 30 2005 at 02:10 AM said:
There are many situations where this is not good.

1) you could buy this thing buy emus for it. then need the money and sell it.  Then at a later date buy another only to discover you emus don't work on you new one  :angry:

2)  You could buy it and the emus only to lose/drop/have stolen the unit, again no worky on replacement.

3) You could buy the unit/emus and everything is fine for 3 years.  It wears out or breaks, again no work on replacement.

4) You actually might have two and want to use the emus on either one.  Maybe you want a white one and a black one.

Another example using the Zodiac (Zodiac was BIG on DRM).  You buy a Zodiac load it with DRM locked games/apps etc.  Your unit breaks.  You buy a replacement on eBay.  Tapwave is gone so you can't re-register the apps, you are now fucked out of hundreds of dollars in software that you legally bought, unacceptable.

The point is there are the DRM limits your freedom, I don't like that.  If I buy it I should be able to use it on any unit I like any time.
I wasn't doubting you. However, it will likely take far less than 3 years for a comparable/better open emu to be released to replace the GPH one--especially since the emus are now all made (sources available mostly) and ready to be ported.

Anyway, I'm not convinced about the whole GPH making or selling their own emus... they couldn't even release WBW.
 
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shinneri posted on Jul 30 2005 at 07:21 AM said:
DaveC posted on Jul 30 2005 at 02:10 AM said:
There are many situations where this is not good.

1) you could buy this thing buy emus for it. then need the money and sell it.  Then at a later date buy another only to discover you emus don't work on you new one  :angry:

2)  You could buy it and the emus only to lose/drop/have stolen the unit, again no worky on replacement.

3) You could buy the unit/emus and everything is fine for 3 years.  It wears out or breaks, again no work on replacement.

4) You actually might have two and want to use the emus on either one.  Maybe you want a white one and a black one.

Another example using the Zodiac (Zodiac was BIG on DRM).  You buy a Zodiac load it with DRM locked games/apps etc.  Your unit breaks.  You buy a replacement on eBay.  Tapwave is gone so you can't re-register the apps, you are now fucked out of hundreds of dollars in software that you legally bought, unacceptable.

The point is there are the DRM limits your freedom, I don't like that.  If I buy it I should be able to use it on any unit I like any time.
I wasn't doubting you. However, it will likely take far less than 3 years for a comparable/better open emu to be released to replace the GPH one--especially since the emus are now all made (sources available mostly) and ready to be ported.

Anyway, I'm not convinced about the whole GPH making or selling their own emus... they couldn't even release WBW.

Plus Nintendo would sick their voracious pitbull layers after them right quick. They have that phoney patent to throw around.
 
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Donations are okay, but I believe that paying for an emulator is wrong, when so many coders can do them for free, and it's not as though you'll get a lot from selling them. I believe it's almost as bad as selling roms and warez.
 
i dont mind paying as long as they arent based on someones elses work who hasnt agreed to it
 
Wait a second, did I miss something? I know that GamePark Holdings are making their own emulators, but when did they say we'd have to pay for them? If we do, that's pretty damn gay.
 
Magus 86 posted on Jul 30 2005 at 03:22 PM said:
Wait a second, did I miss something? I know that GamePark Holdings are making their own emulators, but when did they say we'd have to pay for them? If we do, that's pretty damn gay.
thats got to be the shortest answer ive ever seen from you magus, is your keyboard ok?

no word yet on whether we'd have to pay
 
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moz posted on Jul 30 2005 at 05:56 PM said:
no word yet on whether we'd have to pay

Question: Will the emulators be free or commercial?


Dear customer

Thank you for your interest in gpx2.
Although we havent had concrete plan, there would be either way.
 
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