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λ the β-Redex Reducer
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That would be great to protect my USB-C connector because I would not want that connector to get damaged now that everything is going to be USB-C.
Djoga'Ro
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Could be made with 3d-printer.
All the rubber protectors needed for the Pyra's USB-C connectors are already done.
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Think the conversation went off the rails a while ago.
ClockworkCoder
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Conversations involving "elongated rubber" is very much off the rails.
Djoga'Ro
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Which is, what allowed me to make such a bold statement about all needed protectors already being in existence.
λ the β-Redex Reducer
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ED can market the Pyra by saying that every USB-C port on the Pyra is very sturdy and will not break.
fusion_power
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Honestly, I have no clue if all the delays during the Pyra production made everything even more expensive at the end, compared to if a more experienced and faster (and expensive at first) (case) company would have been choosed right from the beginning. I mean, if the Pyra would be finished 2 years ago for instance, ED would also sell these since 2 years and make money since 2 years with these. basic business rules.
I don't know any example, where long delays and development times made things cheaper at the end. This can bring even the biggest companies in trouble, ask Elon Musk.
Ein Glück das es sobald die MP läuft nur noch CPU Boards zu entwickeln gibt:
Das Gehäuse steht und muss nur Vervielfältigt werden, etc
Heißt also eine Pyra mit mehr Power braucht nicht mehr so lange wie die Pyra komplett zu entwickeln
(Short : good that the next Pyra didn’t need that Long because you only need a new CPU Board , the other Parts only need to MP)
Das Gehäuse steht und muss nur Vervielfältigt werden, etc
Heißt also eine Pyra mit mehr Power braucht nicht mehr so lange wie die Pyra komplett zu entwickeln
(Short : good that the next Pyra didn’t need that Long because you only need a new CPU Board , the other Parts only need to MP)
bzar
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Hindsight is 20/20. The sad reality is you don't know how a company of any price point is going to fare unless you have some good first- or second hand information to base the assumption upon. Quality is not a pure function of cost. By choosing a more expensive unknown instead of a cheaper unknown the only thing you're doing is increasing cost. This played out with the Pandora and Circuit City as you know, and now EDs using GC based on that experience. The first Pyra case manufacturer was in turn chosen to avoid the issues with Pandora's case company. It's a process.Honestly, I have no clue if all the delays during the Pyra production made everything even more expensive at the end, compared to if a more experienced and faster (and expensive at first) (case) company would have been choosed right from the beginning. I mean, if the Pyra would be finished 2 years ago for instance, ED would also sell these since 2 years and make money since 2 years with these. basic business rules.
I don't know any example, where long delays and development times made things cheaper at the end. This can bring even the biggest companies in trouble, ask Elon Musk.
ClockworkCoder
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The keyword is "sobald"... I don't know if you remember it, but the pandora was also very late. The first price was 260€ (or 290€, i can't remember) for the first preorder. 3 years later, it was 400€ or 500€. I bought one of the first and sold them for nearly the twice, because there were a lack of productivity and (of course for me, not for everyone) it was a mistake. (Since then, I never preorder something anymore).
And now? It already the same: As I heard, that there is a successor, I thought: "Yeah, okay... now, he knows, what mistakes he did and will now do it quite better. Let's see".
Hopefully for ED, he will soon finish the pyra and will sell it. If it will be a success, maybe other (big) companies will follow the idea of an open source handheld and produce something similar with much more power for half the price. But it's only hope...
I remember the Pandora, if you remember the Matzesu from the German Boards: that’s me (surprise!!) , I was second batch preeorder, but the Pandora was at the beginning just a „Frustrating Buy“ for me because some shitty mini jobs I had, so I waited patiently, and now I don’t want to miss my Pandora..
I don’t want other companies to make they’re own Pyrae Handhelds cheaper because this would mean that EvilDragon had the whole hassle whit the Development and others are getting the sales ??
So it will be for ED „häda in die Bux geschiss häda me davon gehatt „ (if he dit shit his pants, he would got more) ,
I don’t want other companies to make they’re own Pyrae Handhelds cheaper because this would mean that EvilDragon had the whole hassle whit the Development and others are getting the sales ??
So it will be for ED „häda in die Bux geschiss häda me davon gehatt „ (if he dit shit his pants, he would got more) ,
levi
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I don't think there will be any direct Pyra clones. Despite the plastics being made in China, there weren't any Pandora clones, probably because the innards were damnably hard to make as well as MWeston made them in the US/Germany.
Silent-Hunter
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I'm hoping ED can sell them cheaper if he sells enough of them.
Why sees nobody the advance of the Modular Board Design?? The Pyra is expensive, but you only need just a new CPU Board instead of a whole new Handheld..
On a Longtherm Scale, this is much cheaper than other Handhelds where you have to buy new Handhelds if you need more power..
On a Longtherm Scale, this is much cheaper than other Handhelds where you have to buy new Handhelds if you need more power..
ClockworkCoder
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While I'm a huge fan of the Pyra, the modular design is yet to prove its worth in practical terms. Only when there are serious disccussions on an upgrade plan, would I consider upgradability as a viable futute-proofing route. That's just simple pragmatism.
It is eminently sensible to weigh a purchase on the merits of what it could offer you immediately and not what it may (or may not) in the future.
For me, the Pyra has a lot to offer with or without that option, but the notion of it is appealing at the very least.
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Is that really cheaper? At the moment, the NVIDIA Shield Handheld has s 1.9 GHz GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 and was released 2013. Price was 299$. That was 6 years ago.
The Nintendo Switch costs 300€ with a Tegra X1 (Quad ARM Cortex-A57 + Quad ARM Cortex-A53).
The cheapest Pyra has a weaker cpu (at the moment) than both and the cheapest one costs more than both together (595€). Did you know, how much a new CPU board will cost? What are you doing if it costs 200€? Then, you paid nearly 800€.
Ok, the pyra is not only a gaming console, but please don't ignore the fact, that we didn't know a lot of about the software on the pyra. It's an open-source project and the most open-source projects are not really good, if they didn't have a large userbase. The best hardware is useless without good software.
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The german board is nearly dead, isn't it? The german community seems to be not existing anymore. There were a lot of more people, when the gp2x was out and decreased since the pandora was released. There were also two pandora fan sites (pandora today and anything else) which don't exists anymore.
I know, it's offtopic, but can anybody say something about the preorder numbers? Are there more preorders than at the same time with the pandora?
Maybe only the germans haven't any interested anymore and there more interests in other countries. Maybe, the germans are now all in this board and want to talk in english. I really don't know.
€2: As I see, the admin team thought about migrate the german board into the english one more than one year ago: https://forum.gp2x.de/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18306
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