pmprog
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You don't need to say a lot of things, but the Open Source moniker is applied to all sorts, including hardware, as I previously linkedThere's no need to include "source" anywhere
You don't need to say a lot of things, but the Open Source moniker is applied to all sorts, including hardware, as I previously linkedThere's no need to include "source" anywhere
true, wrong thoughts on my sideNo, not at all.
Do you object to a concept such as "source material" as well? That may refer to just about anything used to create just about anything. Code is just a special case of this.There's no need to include "source" anywhere.
Source - a place, person, or thing from which something comes or can be obtained.If you're talking about abuse of words and what they mean, and not how they should be interpretted, then stick with the actual definitions.Nope, i stand my point that this is an abuse of the word
no, because as I explained in an earlier post, the difference between data and code is that data is discontinuous yet code is structured, continuous, it has a logic. Data can be rearranged in many ways and still remain valid data no matter how you look at it. That's essentially the same difference between a 3D structure composed of polygons (data) and the algorithm that produces them out of nothing. When a modeler makes a 3D model, you don't say he is making a 3D object source, you just say he is making a model.Sticking with the definitions of words, thatgui is right: the data files constitute the source of the cases as much as pre-compiled code is the source to a binary. Opening that source is to make it available, hence "open source", by the definitions of the words, applies.
I'm glad you posted these links:Source does not imply code Neither does Open Source Open Source Software does
Do you deny the software origins ?The term "open source" was first proposed by a group of people in the free software movement
No. Data is structured as well. It has meaning in context, just as code does. Pass a png to a graphics program and a pretty picture pops up. Code has meaning only within the confines of the compiler; passing a C file to a graphics program means nothing.But that's 100% irrelevant, it doesn't matter what definition you apply to code vs data none of it has any bearing on either the definition of the word "source" nor the intent of "open source" movement. Even if code and data are as different as apples and doorbells it doesn't change the fact that data can be a source, and "open source" can be applied to user modifiable data.difference between data and code is that data is discontinuous yet code is structured
And I wouldn't say someone who is programming is making source, I'd say they're writing code.Source means origin, it does not imply code. If it did, the term "source code" would be entirely redundant and we'd just say "source" everywhere, but we don't. Context applies and sometimes the "code" is dropped, but only if you already know you're talking about the code, otherwise you specify what type of source it is.When a modeler makes a 3D model, you don't say he is making a 3D object source, you just say he is making a model.
The fact that its origins lie in software does not imply it is not a broader concept. There are many examples in which words have changed their common meaning as a natural evolution of language. After its first appearance in software, the concept was adopted in a more generalized sense and specialized versions of the word, like open source software, were formed to refer to the specific cases in different domains. This does not make them wrong.I'm glad you posted these links:Source does not imply code Neither does Open Source Open Source Software does
Do you deny the software origins ?The term "open source" was first proposed by a group of people in the free software movement
The point I am arguing is not that "open source" is not used outside of software, but that it's an abuse of the concept. just like "I hacked my bicycle" is a ridiculous usage of the term "hacker". A 5 years old can use words in a wrong way, it still does not make them valid.
Ugh, this is useless, but I'll bite. You might say "The modeller is the source of the 3D model"When a modeler makes a 3D model, you don't say he is making a 3D object source, you just say he is making a model
Or you could say he's creating source material for creating renders of said 3D model.Ugh, this is useless, but I'll bite. You might say "The modeller is the source of the 3D model"When a modeler makes a 3D model, you don't say he is making a 3D object source, you just say he is making a model
- Neelixneelix@nb-fezzik:~$ cp --help
Usage: cp [OPTION]... [-T] SOURCE DEST
or: cp [OPTION]... SOURCE... DIRECTORY
or: cp [OPTION]... -t DIRECTORY SOURCE...
Copy SOURCE to DEST, or multiple SOURCE(s) to DIRECTORY.
There is actualy no need for an empty area, the buttons can even overlap without interrupting each other. Because the upper trigger is more outwards than the lower trigger, at least that was the idea.I can't understand how the lower shoulder buttons works, I don't see an empty area between them and the case.
Is your sample in the spoiler OpenSource?Pandora Forum vs elsewhere
The Pandora Forum
A. Hey guys, I have invested something that solves famine world wide.....
B. Is it open source?
A. Here are the details about it, this should make the world such a better place, this is pretty amazing when you think about it
B. Well, maybe, probably, I don't know, but, anyway, the open source nature of it, is it really open
A. The term 'open source' doesn't really mean anything, or actually it means lots of things, they are all kind of correct. But back to the invention.
B. Invention? Or yes I remember reading something about that, but back to the open source nature of this.
Else where
A. Hey guys, I have invested something that solves famine world wide.....
B. WOW, THAT IS AMAZING. This is so good, wow, let me know more about it. How can I help? We need to make this thing a reality.
Pandora forums
A. Hey guys, I have invented something that solves famine world wide.....
B. Cool as long as it doesn't depend on a double size space
Else where
A. Hey guys, I have invented something that solves famine world wide.....
B. Meh, it's old tech, I've heard IBM is working on something faster.