Wrapping everything up!


Also whitout Germans (EVILDRAGON) the Pandora Project would be death, and lots of Craigix Customers wouldnd get a Pandora..
At first, also the Nazis/Germans from the 30th/40thes where Humans, and there is a huge potenzial in every human to be Evil..

Usaly, most of the Germans are quite Nice, (including myself)..,
Ok, now lets continue whit the Pyra, i want to shoot some Nazis in Return to Castle Wolfenstein ^^
 
@EvilDragon since the cases were the bottleneck and the molds have been moved:

1. When will the new company have cases made?
2. When are the boards going to be populated?
3. What else needs to be done?
 
I'm curious if any of the 95 cases produced have been in the slightest bit usable and if any pre-preorders can be sent out. Also curious how productive the trip to Greece was with the new company. Really looking forward to this next update.
 
If i remember Correctly, EvilDragon said the only bottleneck now are the cases..

I would like to have a passport in the future where there is the Word "World" on the Point "Nationality"
 
I'm curious if any of the 95 cases produced have been in the slightest bit usable and if any pre-preorders can be sent out. Also curious how productive the trip to Greece was with the new company. Really looking forward to this next update.

ED stated they were good enough for the prototypes and modding. He should have them now so hopefully the prototypes will be despatched soon.
 
And if the Prototypes are out, hopefully whe will have a working 3D Driver, and some other stuff, so the first pre Preorderers Pyra arend just good looking doorstopers.. ^^
But if every work at the Release, the Pyra Experience would be quite booring, its more interessting to see the Pyra OS Evolve every Patch..
 
Hold your horses! Until we hear that the ultra generous Grench has got his prototype, I wouldn't even start to consider any of us pre- or non pre-orders getting theirs.

That's what I meant. To be honest the whole pre-pre-preorders/prototype terminology confuses me. I just care when the first 'ordinary users' start to get theirs, whatever words you want to use to describe them.
 
Hold your horses! Until we hear that the ultra generous Grench has got his prototype, I wouldn't even start to consider any of us pre- or non pre-orders getting theirs.

We're all anxious for these to ship. We need to keep in mind prototype gear isn't really meant to be daily driver gear. I'll likely be getting on the list again to buy a 'normal production' Pyra after 'normal production' has gone from backorder to in-stock. We'll see - maybe the prototypes will be closer to perfect than I'm guessing.

I could really see where ED would want the updated cases from the molds with centering pins properly aligning the PCBs to the case plastics for main production. Otherwise plugging something in/out could potentially mess with the shoulder buttons working or not or maybe keys on the keymat not working (misalignment with the mat) or the battery pins not aligned right or other odd behaviors. I'm betting that he needs the prototype cases to be able to accurately measure -where- and -how long- and -what diameter- those important alignment & positioning pins should be for the production cases.
 
I assume he'll be using these barely good enough for prototype developers to work out where the pins need to go.

What exactly your prototype will be is an interesting question. It seems to be that the vast majority of any possible gremlins both hardware and software have been identified and resolved, so I'm honestly not sure what else needs resolving once cases are there. Which suggests your actually getting an early pre-order unit, and a pre-order unit is defined as an early retail unit, so what you're getting is an early early retail unit. Later retail units might feature slightly slimmer cases, and other bits and pieces, but my instinct says the first couple thousand retail units will be the same as yours.
 
I assume he'll be using these barely good enough for prototype developers to work out where the pins need to go.

What exactly your prototype will be is an interesting question. It seems to be that the vast majority of any possible gremlins both hardware and software have been identified and resolved, so I'm honestly not sure what else needs resolving once cases are there. Which suggests your actually getting an early pre-order unit, and a pre-order unit is defined as an early retail unit, so what you're getting is an early early retail unit. Later retail units might feature slightly slimmer cases, and other bits and pieces, but my instinct says the first couple thousand retail units will be the same as yours.

I understand that there were board traces and components fixed manually on the current set of prototype motherboards that were/are getting corrected 'properly' on the production boards. There shouldn't be any difference in board functionality though. So the boards are 'not-quite-but-real-close-to-production'.

The cases - well, we know the story there. The prototype cases may very well require careful positioning and maybe shimming the boards 'just so' in order to keep everything lined up.

OS and software is likely to be a work in progress.

When? Well, since he has cases - if he can make them work - may need some manual 'fine tuning' to make them work. So if he brought the 100 cases back with him and starts fiddling with them in a few days (catch up on day job & family), then maybe assembles a couple over the weekend... If all goes really really well, maybe mine gets built February 2nd or 3rd?
 
since the cases were the bottleneck and the molds have been moved:

1. When will the new company have cases made?
2. When are the boards going to be populated?
3. What else needs to be done?
Some of these questions have already been answered:

2. When are the boards going to be populated?
After they've been ordered, manufactured, and have arrived. I think we can be pretty certain that EvilDragon will give us a news post when the boards are ordered along with an updated estimate on their manufacturing and shipping time.

3. What else needs to be done?
Build more prototypes now that there are cases for them, send them out, finish hardware testing(?), order PCBs. Finish getting software in a usable state (including OS, image installer, and automated burn-in tests). Product boxes (and artwork?), manuals and other paperwork (warranty cards?).
 
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You know, this thing might actually be nearing completion. That feels really weird to say after years of work and delays, but it might actually be the case. I won't get my hopes up too high, though. I'm also gonna hope that there aren't any issues like the Pandora apparently had with its first batches.
 
Levis' point that the next batch of prototypes are basically 'early pre-orders' and will be identical to the preorder production worries me.

I've been involved with several complex projects, and "this will be the final revision" nowadays triggers not just aversion, but something close to PTSD in me.

More eyeballs find more problems. Would it be wiser to get a 'beta production release Pyra' into the hands of select community members for a few weeks, before committing unrecoverable funds to the production run?

Just asking - since i don't know enough to have an opinion.
 
If i remember correcly, the plan was to send the prototyphs to the prototyph Preeorders, as they are quite expensive, and the first run of the new Cases gets to the Pree Pree Orders and if there are more than 200 , also to the normal Preeorders..
I think whe should wait for the Statement from EvilDragon..
 
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