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Why do people hate Tony Blair? The only major stupid thing that has happened under his government is the war on terror.
Mudi posted on Feb 24 2007 at 04:50 AM said:I have googled it, and I told you the results in my last post... nothing 'scientifically verifiable' blah blah blather blather that I saw.
That's not a valid excuse, IMO. We need people of principle in office. Not a bunch of pathetic yes-men afraid to take a stand to protect the very rights that made this country what it is.nickspoon posted on Feb 24 2007 at 06:24 AM said:Oh, and if the Democrats were to vote against the Patriot Act or anything involving basic rights being stripped, they'd be "obstructionist" and "the terrorists would win".
nickspoon posted on Feb 24 2007 at 12:24 PM said:Whether global warming is actually happening is beside the point. The fact that politicians are ignoring or denying anything that scientists come up with that seems to show this - that's the problem. Although Mr. Blair has got the ball rolling with his proposal to the G8, people are arguing that it isn't enough and the majority of the American government are sitting with cotton wool in their ears (which is a wonderful image to consider).
Oh, and if the Democrats were to vote against the Patriot Act or anything involving basic rights being stripped, they'd be "obstructionist" and "the terrorists would win".
LordFu posted on Feb 24 2007 at 02:59 PM said:And DaveC, I don't know if I'd call those issues democratic or republican. I just call them idiotic and irrellevant. In case you're wondering, I'm not a republican or a democrat. I'm wholly independent, although I usually vote libertarian since they choose to make individual rights and constitutional government their party platform.
Goity posted on Feb 24 2007 at 12:46 PM said:Why do people hate Tony Blair? The only major stupid thing that has happened under his government is the war on terror.
War against Iraq. Following whatever Mr. Bush does. Refusing to call a ceasefire in Israel-Lebanon. ASBOs. ID cards. Detainment without trial for 90 days for terror suspects. Indefinite detainment without trial or charge for foreigners. Ignoring completely the decisions of the Cabinet, instead deciding to use his own personal advisers. The Private Finance Initiative, which is where portions of the public sector are sold to the private sector, then the private sector forms a monopoly on this portion and can therefore charge more and offer terrible service - like privatisation, only we're not going to call it that.Goity posted on Feb 24 2007 at 12:46 PM said:Why do people hate Tony Blair? The only major stupid thing that has happened under his government is the war on terror.
touché. Apart from ASBOs, they're great fun to collect.nickspoon posted on Feb 25 2007 at 11:59 AM said:War against Iraq. Following whatever Mr. Bush does. Refusing to call a ceasefire in Israel-Lebanon. ASBOs. ID cards. Detainment without trial for 90 days for terror suspects. Indefinite detainment without trial or charge for foreigners. Ignoring completely the decisions of the Cabinet, instead deciding to use his own personal advisers. The Private Finance Initiative, which is where portions of the public sector are sold to the private sector, then the private sector forms a monopoly on this portion and can therefore charge more and offer terrible service - like privatisation, only we're not going to call it that.Goity posted on Feb 24 2007 at 12:46 PM said:Why do people hate Tony Blair? The only major stupid thing that has happened under his government is the war on terror.
Yes, Tony Blair is largely responsible for how shitty the NHS, public transport and education are.
Goity posted on Feb 25 2007 at 02:51 PM said:touché. Apart from ASBOs, they're great fun to collect.nickspoon posted on Feb 25 2007 at 11:59 AM said:War against Iraq. Following whatever Mr. Bush does. Refusing to call a ceasefire in Israel-Lebanon. ASBOs. ID cards. Detainment without trial for 90 days for terror suspects. Indefinite detainment without trial or charge for foreigners. Ignoring completely the decisions of the Cabinet, instead deciding to use his own personal advisers. The Private Finance Initiative, which is where portions of the public sector are sold to the private sector, then the private sector forms a monopoly on this portion and can therefore charge more and offer terrible service - like privatisation, only we're not going to call it that.Goity posted on Feb 24 2007 at 12:46 PM said:Why do people hate Tony Blair? The only major stupid thing that has happened under his government is the war on terror.
Yes, Tony Blair is largely responsible for how shitty the NHS, public transport and education are.
Besides, he's better than Hug a hoody David Cameron and fatass lying-to-get-public-approval Gordon Brown.
Because he married a relative of the guy that topped Abe Lincoln ? That's got to be worth a few brownie points. Do you think G.W. knows about that ? Does he avoid the theatre when the Blairs are in town ?lubidog posted on Feb 25 2007 at 10:37 PM said:Goity posted on Feb 25 2007 at 02:51 PM said:Besides, he's better than Hug a hoody David Cameron and fatass lying-to-get-public-approval Gordon Brown.
Why is he?
Nova posted on Feb 24 2007 at 01:56 PM said:Goity posted on Feb 24 2007 at 12:46 PM said:Why do people hate Tony Blair? The only major stupid thing that has happened under his government is the war on terror.
Backing George Bush's plan to turn britain into a missile base...
I believe that is one of the biggest problems with politics in the USA, we have a two party system. Like you, I don't agree with either party. Libertarianism seems to make the most sense to me, more freedom both socially and financially.LordFu posted on Feb 24 2007 at 02:59 PM said:That's not a valid excuse, IMO. We need people of principle in office. Not a bunch of pathetic yes-men afraid to take a stand to protect the very rights that made this country what it is.nickspoon posted on Feb 24 2007 at 06:24 AM said:Oh, and if the Democrats were to vote against the Patriot Act or anything involving basic rights being stripped, they'd be "obstructionist" and "the terrorists would win".
Both parties are happy to give totalitarian power to the executive. They just want their canidate in the office.
And DaveC, I don't know if I'd call those issues democratic or republican. I just call them idiotic and irrellevant. In case you're wondering, I'm not a republican or a democrat. I'm wholly independent, although I usually vote libertarian since they choose to make individual rights and constitutional government their party platform.
I definitly agree with you about electronic voting. There is overwhelming evidence that the vote was tampered with in Ohio last election, and other places that don't come to mind. Did you see that HBO Special, "Hacking Democracy"? It's on Google Video. But, in all reality, politicians have been stealing the vote at least since JFK, and probably longer than that.
QFTdeclaration posted on Feb 27 2007 at 07:24 AM said:I think this thread proves that the GP2X community isn't as stupid as some mods seem to think. We are able to talk about things that matter without it turning into an all-out flame war.
TelcoLou posted on Feb 27 2007 at 12:16 PM said:Of note: Why the fuck do politicians .... ALL of them ... have to wear business suits? I think I might actually vote for a candidate who refused to dress like a CEO.
http://www.omrlp.com/TelcoLou posted on Feb 27 2007 at 05:16 PM said:Of note:
Why the fuck do politicians .... ALL of them ... have to wear business suits? I think I might actually vote for a candidate who refused to dress like a CEO.
nickspoon posted on Feb 27 2007 at 01:05 PM said:http://www.omrlp.com/TelcoLou posted on Feb 27 2007 at 05:16 PM said:Of note:
Why the fuck do politicians .... ALL of them ... have to wear business suits? I think I might actually vote for a candidate who refused to dress like a CEO.
I'd vote for them.