Pyra News: Springs are brilliant!

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How would you make a custom keyboard layout? I thought the caps were just clear plastic, and it was the actual mat that had the characters cut from the black layer to let the led light through
 

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How would you make a custom keyboard layout? I thought the caps were just clear plastic, and it was the actual mat that had the characters cut from the black layer to let the led light through
Yes, as mentioned: You could print inlays and put them inbetween, but then you lose the backlight.
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Sounds very promising. Are there any issues left now (or new issues found in dev prototypes), or we are set for mass production? Keeping fingers crossed :happy:
No known hardware bugs currently left. Only software and case.
 

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What ?! Without even a discussion first ?! :oops:

I missed this bit before, it's pretty cool !!
Keyboard thread!!!!
Well, you COULD put inlays in there to create your own keyboard layout, but then you lose the backlit keys :)
But you could also sell an alternative "blank" keyboard in which all glyphs are a solid white rectangle, so that anyone could
print a negative letter (solid black square except the letter) on a transparent sheet (anyone remember the presentation sheets before beamers), cut it and put it between key and keymat. Then people could have personalized backlit keyboards. But would have quite a lot of work and would
have to pay for a "blank" keyboard.

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No, they can't. Their surrounding is bigger than the holes in the plastic parts. They cannot fall out unless you disassemble the unit.
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Well, I thought the scenario was just a rapid unscheduled disassembly. We just don't know how likely that is when droped.

Thanks for updates and good luck.
[doublepost=1560455016][/doublepost]Emm, I dug this up to correct myself...

For what it's worth I asked ED about the cost of producing the keymat for the the Pyra. My understanding is that the MOQ for the keymats is 1000 units, and that would cost about 10000€.

-Neelix
So, it would be a seriously expensive custom key :(
 

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Well, I thought the scenario was just a rapid unscheduled disassembly. We just don't know how likely that is when droped
I dropped my Pandora multiple times onto a carpet from the arm of an armchair. The worst that happened once was one of the shoulder buttons got slightly stuck in, but popping it out again was easy.
 

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No known hardware bugs currently left. Only software and case.
Did I miss the solution to some keys not working correctly? I think they were ; and ' keys in the bottom left.
Was that just a software issue? Where the diodes in backwards?
 

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Did I miss the solution to some keys not working correctly? I think they were ; and ' keys in the bottom left.
Was that just a software issue? Where the diodes in backwards?
They were being damaged by the testing apparatus if I recall correctly.

Edit:
Found the quote (from "Yay some news!" post):
Keys: An issue where keys weren't working has been fixed by Nikolaus and is likely an issue caused by the testing equipment at Global Components
 
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Did I miss the solution to some keys not working correctly? I think they were ; and ' keys in the bottom left.
Was that just a software issue? Where the diodes in backwards?
I think it's in the previous news thread by Wally. As I recall, diodes were being knocked off by the factory's probe tester.

Edit: Ninja'ed by @MTPDA
 

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azouls is still waiting for some new material which he thinks could be the solution to the discolorization we've seen in the plastics as well :)
If this delays the delivery, I will gladly buy the discoloration. I'd rather have a device where you later, if it bothers you, change the case than delay it even further.

Thomas
 

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May i ask the current status of the remaining Parts ?
Im not in Hurry currently as i have an Ebook Reader for long Journeys and Waitingtimes since end of last year, but out of curriosity .. ^^
 

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But you could also sell an alternative "blank" keyboard in which all glyphs are a solid white rectangle, so that anyone could
print a negative letter (solid black square except the letter) on a transparent sheet (anyone remember the presentation sheets before beamers), cut it and put it between key and keymat. Then people could have personalized backlit keyboards. But would have quite a lot of work and would
have to pay for a "blank" keyboard.

For what it's worth I asked ED about the cost of producing the keymat for the the Pyra. My understanding is that the MOQ for the keymats is 1000 units, and that would cost about 10000€.
So, it would be a seriously expensive custom key :(
That having been said, what I was discussing there was a single custom layout, and what you are suggesting is an infinitely customisable layout which may have considerably wider appeal. If it can be confirmed that a keymat with completely blank and translucent keytops could be topped with key images printed on thin paper (or transparent plastic as you suggest) and achieve a passable backlit effect, that may be considered something worth paying for. The question would then be, how much demand is there and how much are people willing to pay for such a feature?

Just a thought... Practicality remains to be seen. :)

-Neelix
 

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They were being damaged by the testing apparatus if I recall correctly.
I think it's in the previous news thread by Wally. As I recall, diodes were being knocked off by the factory's probe tester.
Thanks guys, there was even a pretty picture showing the problem.
Guess I don't pay as much attention to a wally post as I do an ED post :p
 

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Can I suggest that the next update thread title be a mother trucker jojo reference?
 
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