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Well, since the original has been locked & there are still some things that I want to say, I've decided to start a continuation thread to continue where the last one left off
http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...opic=4491&st=15
(note to Rico: couldn't you have separated that thread into 2 parts instead of locking it? Sorry about making it go off topic though... I got a bit carried away with my first post there)
Besides, I live in Canada (where I support the NDP or the Liberals), so why would I support either one of your two parties?
Right now, everybody in Iraq has the freedom to criticize Hussein and praise America, but on the other hand many people do not have the freedom to walk the streets safely, drink clean water, work, or go to school.
Honestly, which kind of freedom do you think is most important?
declaration said:
It is certainly not alone in history. Wether Iraqi culture and people are "greater" or not depends largely on your opinion.
Certainly, those $60million that the administration gave to certain companies to help American culture permiate Iraq could have better been used as funds to help people in Iraq, but what can you do?
The I-forget-how-many-billion-dollar price tag of the war would have been a huge help to the poor people in developing nations. However, the military machine has to get rid of its old stuff so that it can get money and room for more new weapons, and how can you get rid of weapons but by starting a war?
I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein was a nice guy; however, he held the country together.
One man can only affect the life of a regular person in Iraq to a certain degree, after all. People could live, love, and enjoy life under Hussein, if they were careful about what they said and did in public.
Now, after the invasion, they probably feel a lot more afraid than they did under the Baath regime.
http://www.gp32x.de/board/index.php?showt...opic=4491&st=15
(note to Rico: couldn't you have separated that thread into 2 parts instead of locking it? Sorry about making it go off topic though... I got a bit carried away with my first post there)
No, actually I do not see all that much difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.Well, ESN, it seems like you support the Democrats.
Besides, I live in Canada (where I support the NDP or the Liberals), so why would I support either one of your two parties?
That's right, thousands of schools are opening, only a little worse for wear:Well, did you ever think about the good things that are happening in Iraq? Thousands of schools are opening, and so many other things.
source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...5/19/wirq19.xmlTo find out what is happening in the schools, we go past the burning polytechnic to the ministry of education, which has already been gutted. Seven-year-olds are still scavenging for bits of wire, and the concrete floors are carpeted with old exam papers. One is for an English exam: "Re-write in cursive: The boy pats the dog. The Iraqi army is ready to liberate Palestine."
A group of armed men run in screaming at us. It turns out that they think we are looters. They used to work at the ministry as clerks, and have banded together to save the remnants of their office. Many of the 700 schools in Basra have also been looted. Unicef is trying to deliver as many "schools in a box" as it can - crates packed with paper, pencils, blackboard paint and chalk.
At Yomoma girls' school, a teacher points to the sweating seven-year-olds, and cries: "We have no fans, no milk or water for the children. They are being treated like animals going to market, not pupils receiving an education. We are the second richest oil country in the world, but we have nothing - it is madness."
The Americans are planning to restructure the curriculum but, at the moment, that is merely a matter of tearing out pages. What people need now are water supplies, lavatories, desks and teachers. Each school is operating on two-hour shifts; 25 per cent of children do not receive any education.
You mean to say that girls could not shop in Baghdad while Hussein was in power? This is Iraq, not Afghanistan. Baghdad was a pretty modern city with relatively high standards of living. No city looks its best after being invaded.I heard on, believe it or not, CNN, a reporter said she saw two girls SHOPPING ( sounds a little like the word freedom ) and they asked the reporter: "Do you listen to Metallica?"
Freedom doesn't mean much when you don't have the basic human need of security. Freedom is relative, anyway; under Hussein, you couldn't speak badly about the government or praise America, but you had the freedom to walk the streets safely, work, buy food, and live.The people are enjoying many more freedoms than we will ever see, because news agencies are so stuck on reporting the bad, not the good.
Right now, everybody in Iraq has the freedom to criticize Hussein and praise America, but on the other hand many people do not have the freedom to walk the streets safely, drink clean water, work, or go to school.
Honestly, which kind of freedom do you think is most important?
Now I've never seen Fox news so I can't comment, but CNN is generally considered to be Republican propaganda in Toronto. I've heard that it is considered a "leftist" station in the US... :huh:no, you please understand, my mind is not CNN-washed, I watch FOX news much more.
declaration said:
Any conquering culture does that. The US is currently a powerful country, and therefore spreads its culture around as much as it can.Iraqi children asking about Metallica seems a sad thing to me. it just represent the way in which the USA constantly imposes its culture on the rest of the world, eroding away the culture of far greater people.
It is certainly not alone in history. Wether Iraqi culture and people are "greater" or not depends largely on your opinion.
Certainly, those $60million that the administration gave to certain companies to help American culture permiate Iraq could have better been used as funds to help people in Iraq, but what can you do?
The I-forget-how-many-billion-dollar price tag of the war would have been a huge help to the poor people in developing nations. However, the military machine has to get rid of its old stuff so that it can get money and room for more new weapons, and how can you get rid of weapons but by starting a war?
Well, I hope I understood your point :unsure:DECLARATION, I don't think you get my point either, but I will leave it at that.
I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein was a nice guy; however, he held the country together.
One man can only affect the life of a regular person in Iraq to a certain degree, after all. People could live, love, and enjoy life under Hussein, if they were careful about what they said and did in public.
Now, after the invasion, they probably feel a lot more afraid than they did under the Baath regime.
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