Roly-poly man
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It was about seeing how far off the rails this insane project would go. And it's still going!
PGS Windows 10 gaming handheld - GPD WIN competitor
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More precisely, as a regular KS backer, I want to be sure for KS not to be a haven for scammers and then to undermine our trusts towards KS. I cannot prevent "uneducated" backers from being scammed if they think they can disregard the opinions of experienced backers.
As for those who go with "preordering" through upfront payment, I think they deserve their stupidity.
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Exophase
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They keep "explaining" that they're charging money upfront in order for people to get the same price as they offered on KS, as if that makes any sense whatsoever when they can do the same thing with delayed charges. Why do they think people are this stupid?
It's so obvious the discount plan is part of the scam. Without the threat of having to pay more later no one would ever buy it now. It's not like traditional crowdfunding where discounts are rewarded in exchange for increased risk; they're selling this notion of no risk.
They assuage people's fears by saying they can be protected with PayPal. Their plan is probably to withdraw money as soon as it hits their account, then in the next few months when people realize again that it's not going anywhere PayPal won't be able to take the money back and will be left having to deal with refunds themselves (as if). Since they'll never find an advance payment storefront that incorporates PayPal I imagine they'll add a direct link on their website. Then about three seconds after it goes live they'll be reported to PayPal and quickly banned. Maybe they'll make another post about how the haters and GPD shills sabotaged them.
I hope one day we find out more of the true details of what's going on behind the scenes with all this. My current guess scenario is that they actually believe they can pull it off if they get some, just about any amount of seed money. Like enough to actually build real prototypes. The investors are a lie, but they rationalize it by believing that people just don't understand how great they are and how they're too passionate to fail. And that it's fair play after they've been unfairly sabotaged by jealous competitors.
It's so obvious the discount plan is part of the scam. Without the threat of having to pay more later no one would ever buy it now. It's not like traditional crowdfunding where discounts are rewarded in exchange for increased risk; they're selling this notion of no risk.
They assuage people's fears by saying they can be protected with PayPal. Their plan is probably to withdraw money as soon as it hits their account, then in the next few months when people realize again that it's not going anywhere PayPal won't be able to take the money back and will be left having to deal with refunds themselves (as if). Since they'll never find an advance payment storefront that incorporates PayPal I imagine they'll add a direct link on their website. Then about three seconds after it goes live they'll be reported to PayPal and quickly banned. Maybe they'll make another post about how the haters and GPD shills sabotaged them.
I hope one day we find out more of the true details of what's going on behind the scenes with all this. My current guess scenario is that they actually believe they can pull it off if they get some, just about any amount of seed money. Like enough to actually build real prototypes. The investors are a lie, but they rationalize it by believing that people just don't understand how great they are and how they're too passionate to fail. And that it's fair play after they've been unfairly sabotaged by jealous competitors.
Roly-poly man
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Grand video. What a dumb fucking thing this has all been.
Also, Exophase is on to something. I'm actually beginning to suspect that Mursalov guy is mentally ill, as in the megalomaniacal way.
Also, Exophase is on to something. I'm actually beginning to suspect that Mursalov guy is mentally ill, as in the megalomaniacal way.
What if Nadir borrowed money from the Russian mob (as hinted at in the video in the "secret investor" part) and soon has to pay it back with interest?
Cancelling the Kickstarter would only make sense then if Kickstarter demanded more credibility and was about to cancel it anyway - which is likely.
Cancelling the Kickstarter would only make sense then if Kickstarter demanded more credibility and was about to cancel it anyway - which is likely.
Oh, oh, maybe Nadir tried to scam a Russian mobster and had to hold up the KS thing until he made it out of the country?
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Latest PGS update:
"Dear gaming fans. The next prototype we are going to show you will be based on a custom PCB, being as close as possible to the final device. As for our investor, we will disclose info only when we have got a permission, when all details have been discussed, the manufacturer has been chosen and initial agreements with retailers have been made. We are preparing a big update of our website which, hopefully, will help you find answers on most of your questions."
"Dear gaming fans. The next prototype we are going to show you will be based on a custom PCB, being as close as possible to the final device. As for our investor, we will disclose info only when we have got a permission, when all details have been discussed, the manufacturer has been chosen and initial agreements with retailers have been made. We are preparing a big update of our website which, hopefully, will help you find answers on most of your questions."
levi
Still fresh, damnit!
That would make a big difference (even though I'd like to see something about how the collapsing joysticks are going to work too), but I won't hold my breath for it.
Exophase
Nothing good will ever come of Exophase.
PGS: Revolution Soon (tm)
Just expected more "soon" posts, I don't believe for a second that any of it will actually materialize.
PS: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/...c87666355c47c8d:ot:56c3deda733462ca8940c1b8:1
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Come to think of it, I vaguely recall that I think the "PGS - Revolution Now" spoken by the Honest Trailers/Screen Junkies guy was actually in one of the videos. I'm still trying to find it again, but I remember there being a really out of place read request at the end of one that I saw months ago that sounded like an ad for something. Now that I'm remembering it, I think it was for the PGS. Which would also fit with how they got him to say it.
TheOldOne
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I remember that need to find it!
Now that you say it, I think I remember it too since I watched a bloody lot of those trailers in the last months.
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I tried going back through them using my watched history, but it didn't stand out. Maybe it was a cross-over video with something else or maybe it didn't make it into my watch history like I watched it somewhere else. It would need to predate their original Kickstarter video.
It could also have been one of the honest game trailers by smosh games, he does those too.
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