PGS Windows 10 gaming handheld - GPD WIN competitor

[vcoleiro1]

So someone posted the following on the PGS comments. Nadir is calling for forum members to create an account on the PGS KS and combat negative commentors. This just never ceases to amaze.
Pretty sure Cooler3D is Nadir. I think I came across that name before when doing some searches for Nadir. Page 5 is also very interesting. Nadir seems to be hiring , did Alec then get hired?

From page 5 :
Cooler3D
"ANNOUNCEMENT
I for PGS assistant can not hurt. Before the release of PGS on Kickstarter so many small tasks dialed.
Special skills are not necessary, except that a direct hand, responsibility, and intolerant attitude towards portable gaming pribludy.
I shall appoint what some serious salary + bonus in the event of success fees on Kickstarter. "

Anyway, here is the post soemone made in the PGS comments:

"Some russian fags on this thread, asking other people to create accounts to defend this scam:

http://madfanboy.com/forum/sobirayu-miniatyurnogo-monstra-t60624-180.html

Just a quick Google translate of the first post (Hi Cooler3D if you read this post):

"I understand that the request for assistance on the MBF usually lead to exactly the opposite result, but I'm afraid I'll just have to do it.

With the campaign on Kickstarter have problems
Everything went smoothly. Those who decided to trust immediately - immediately trusted, the rest made their money in anticipation to see the updated prototype before the end of the campaign, on which I work most actively, and will almost certainly have time to show it to be updated on the KS until the end of the campaign.

Fees grew slowly, but about 3 days ago in the comments to the project on Kickstarter made a few trolls. They have made the dollar (which has allowed them to participate in the comments), and almost around the clock (by their activity they do not sleep), deliberately poured slops project, urging Becker to take their money. They also periodically provide direct links to the Chinese GPD with its console WIN, that would hint.

This has led to charges that not only halted but went in the opposite direction, as many of Becker began to panic. For two days the campaign has lost 20t. dollars, and it continues to go into minus.

I have two options, either I devote all my time suppressing their activity and mitigating the situation in the comments, or I deliberately keep dopilivat update the prototype. In the second case - to release a prototype of fees can come to such a figure from which a plus not to have time to get out.

How can we help? Very simple. Pledzhim exactly $ 1 for KS page - to access a project commenting (dollar then you can pick up, sort of like he did not even removed from the card until the end of the campaign), and a little to defuse the situation in the comments the next day of the week. I understand that not everyone has the time or the opportunity, but the Chinese GPD we deliberately crushes and smothers other solutions I do not see

I would be immensely grateful to everyone who responds.

"

If you scroll down this thread you can notice someone named... AlecArzh? It seems I have already seen that name before... I don't remember where."

Update:

PGS just posted this video of there Prototype #3

 

[levi]

Is it my player, or is there no sound on that?

 

[hlidegp2x]

Well I guess they cut the audio because of the noise of the huge fan of their gaming rig hidden the table.

 

[Exophase]

So someone posted the following on the PGS comments. Nadir is calling for forum members to create an account on the PGS KS and combat negative commentors. This just never ceases to amaze.
Pretty sure Cooler3D is Nadir. I think I came across that name before when doing some searches for Nadir. Page 5 is also very interesting. Nadir seems to be hiring , did Alec then get hired?

At least this means Nadir and AlecArzh are probably separate people, unless he was using a sockpuppet account on this forum for years..

 

[hlidegp2x]

Hiring, nope, just promising money if his KS project is successful. Powning his own supporters, kinda.

 

[KidPaddle]

That guy in video has small hands or the prototype is huge.

Thomas

 

[Willburn]

Yup, seems like they are indeed seperate, so at least that tiny detail isn't a scam.
Another quick search for him revealed his facebook site. You can see on his public profile, that he has posted the PGS logo some time ago on his facebook page, so very good probability that we have the right guy here.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012263439938
(ED, please let me know if you dont like us posting personal profiles here and I will remove it immediately)

Doesn't change the fact that Alec was just randomly recruited off a russian forum to lie to backers and keep them in check until the campaign is over.

By the way, you gotta either admire both Nadir's and Alec's courage (or stupidity) for using their real names in a scam campaign. I can imagine a lot of people will be very pissed at them once all of this is over and done.

 

[Klumpen]

I'm imagining a scene playing out at the end of the PGS KS campaign, similar to what happened in the movie "The Game" . The one with Michael Douglas.
Remember the scene when Michael Douglas's account is drained. Knowing CRS took his money , he calls the police and they go to CRSs office, only to find an empty floor.

Thanks for the spoiler alert. -.-

 

[Alperoot]

The video seems somehow realistic.
EvilDragon, help me with your dragon powers to see the scam!

 

[Klumpen]

(translated post from Nadir)
Fees grew slowly, but about 3 days ago in the comments to the project on Kickstarter made a few trolls. They have made the dollar (which has allowed them to participate in the comments), and almost around the clock (by their activity they do not sleep), deliberately poured slops project, urging Becker to take their money. They also periodically provide direct links to the Chinese GPD with its console WIN, that would hint.

What? I haven't seen any link to GPD in the comments section. Is he lying ( *shock* :O ) or have they been removed?

 

[Willburn]

Oh my lord, it's so satisfying to see their little house of lies crumbling apart beneath their feet

 

[EvilDragon]

The video seems somehow realistic.
EvilDragon, help me with your dragon powers to see the scam!

Do you see a PCB somewhere?
They said it's using a Voyo V3, which is probably lying somewhere below the table
The sticks still are the iGEP Controllers.

So it's the same as before, with a different color and the sticks inside the case.
Wooot.

 

[Exophase]

Oh boy, the new prototype has been shown. Let's look at what changed since the old prototype.

- Different colored material now. Change in 3D printer?
- They printed button caps now instead of using the ones from their ripped apart ipega. Or maybe they painted existing ones. The detail is pretty fine since you can see name engravings on the face buttons.
- There are ripped analog sticks shoved in the holes so you can't look down and see the case is empty now. But they don't use them even once so I doubt they actually work.
- They poked an LED through the case that blinks when the thing powers up and could be pretty much anything. Bluetooth pairing LED for controller?
- They've given up trying to pass any illusion of having a slider or hinge, now it's clearly visible they glued the screen part to the base part with little stands. Of course, with those sticks it'd never close anyway.
- You can no longer see controller PCBs coming out the sides, I guess they shoved it in the base.
- They still don't lift or move the unit, it just sits at a convenient angle where they can keep any suspicious cabling to other hardware obscured...

So like expected, it shows pretty much nothing new.

Page 5 is also very interesting. Nadir seems to be hiring , did Alec then get hired?

What's interesting is that it shows he was looking for help with a Kickstarter.. in late March. Right before he went on other forums saying he wouldn't need to use KS because he already had investors. Looks like he planned to do KS all along (big surprise given that video, right?) and any excuses about having fallouts with investors or investors suddenly demanding that he get $100k in KS sales first is a deception. Once again suggesting that there were never were any investors.

 

[ible]

well this is one of the more elaborate scampaigns i've ever seen! to truly complete the show, i'd definitely like to see them pick the prototype up, get full 4*pi steradians view, and close the hinge, see the PCB, etc... oh and yeah, get real names for the companies that are going to invest

 

[Yoyobuae]

My thoughs on PGS latest "prototype":

But then again, we already knew that.

 

[Exophase]

@Yoyobuae good catch on the controller LED. Looks like I guessed correctly.

I guess I should have added that they changed the layout of the screen housing to actually sit on top of the screen instead of around it. Not a very big change though. Screen is probably taped/glued to this piece...

well this is one of the more elaborate scampaigns i've ever seen! to truly complete the show, i'd definitely like to see them pick the prototype up, get full 4*pi steradians view, and close the hinge, see the PCB, etc... oh and yeah, get real names for the companies that are going to invest

Whoever tries to close this thing is going to be very unhappy with the result.

I suppose it's possible that there's a mainboard PCB in the bottom part now, although very doubtful. But there's no way that the LCD connects to anything directly in the bottom case. There has to be cabling coming out the back, there's just no other way to make this work, you can't feed anything through the little stands they glued the thing to.

I bet the top part doesn't have a back covering and the bottom part doesn't have a bottom covering. Bottom part may also have hollowed out back where they can feed things through, although since it probably just houses a wireless controller PCB with a battery attached there likely isn't anything that actually needs to be passed through. The real tablet PCB is who knows where.

 

[Klumpen]

PGS just posted this video of there Prototype #3

jack about 2 hours ago
Our head engineer locked himself away in a room for two weeks and came up with a revolutionary way to paint plastic blue.

Erosquare 43 minutes ago
Hey guys, take a look at this. The definitive truth that this project is a scam:

http://www.gamedev.ru/users/…

"Cooler3D: Nadir Mursalov
Cooler3D (Cooler3D@gmail.com) (Послать персональное сообщение)

Москва
photohouse.info

Интересы: Cg, GameDev

Форум: темы
"
So we know for sure that Nadir IS Cooler3D.

Nadir, trying to recruit and Alec telling Nadir to send him a PM.
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/29/1469033282-scam1.png

Nadir, trying to uprise russian people.
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/29/1469033288-scam2.png

PGS is a whole joke, especially Nadir.

 

[ible]

sounds like a good use of time.

 

[Exophase]

And a clarification was posted, helpful as always..

@Backers
You have to understand that this is a prototype, not the final device as shown in rendered images. It's current size is larger than that of the final device.
The custom PCB based prototype will be shown after this campaign ends, because its development will start only after we get investments. We will get funds from investor if we successfully end this campaign, then our agreements with that investor come into force.

You have to ask yourself, why would they make the 3D printed version larger than the specifications called for when they're only using it to house cannibalized pieces of controllers? If anything I'd expect it to be smaller.

Okay, I didn't see this, there's another video now:


This time the unit is actually being lifted. And the sticks actually work, not that that really means anything since they're probably part of the same original controller assembly that the other controls are.

Maybe they really did manage to put the tablet PCB inside the base?

 

[ible]

no, you still can't see under it. (and if you're not showing something, there's a reason.) so there's something going on there. it also is held pretty awkwardly, so it's gotta be tethered to something.