PGS Windows 10 gaming handheld - GPD WIN competitor
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Yup, seems like they are indeed seperate, so at least that tiny detail isn't a scam.
Another quick search for him revealed his facebook site. You can see on his public profile, that he has posted the PGS logo some time ago on his facebook page, so very good probability that we have the right guy here.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012263439938
(ED, please let me know if you dont like us posting personal profiles here and I will remove it immediately)
Doesn't change the fact that Alec was just randomly recruited off a russian forum to lie to backers and keep them in check until the campaign is over.
By the way, you gotta either admire both Nadir's and Alec's courage (or stupidity) for using their real names in a scam campaign. I can imagine a lot of people will be very pissed at them once all of this is over and done.
Another quick search for him revealed his facebook site. You can see on his public profile, that he has posted the PGS logo some time ago on his facebook page, so very good probability that we have the right guy here.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012263439938
(ED, please let me know if you dont like us posting personal profiles here and I will remove it immediately)
Doesn't change the fact that Alec was just randomly recruited off a russian forum to lie to backers and keep them in check until the campaign is over.
By the way, you gotta either admire both Nadir's and Alec's courage (or stupidity) for using their real names in a scam campaign. I can imagine a lot of people will be very pissed at them once all of this is over and done.
Thanks for the spoiler alert. -.-
What? I haven't seen any link to GPD in the comments section. Is he lying ( *shock* :O ) or have they been removed?
Do you see a PCB somewhere?
They said it's using a Voyo V3, which is probably lying somewhere below the table
The sticks still are the iGEP Controllers.
So it's the same as before, with a different color and the sticks inside the case.
Wooot.
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Oh boy, the new prototype has been shown. Let's look at what changed since the old prototype.
- Different colored material now. Change in 3D printer?
- They printed button caps now instead of using the ones from their ripped apart ipega. Or maybe they painted existing ones. The detail is pretty fine since you can see name engravings on the face buttons.
- There are ripped analog sticks shoved in the holes so you can't look down and see the case is empty now. But they don't use them even once so I doubt they actually work.
- They poked an LED through the case that blinks when the thing powers up and could be pretty much anything. Bluetooth pairing LED for controller?
- They've given up trying to pass any illusion of having a slider or hinge, now it's clearly visible they glued the screen part to the base part with little stands. Of course, with those sticks it'd never close anyway.
- You can no longer see controller PCBs coming out the sides, I guess they shoved it in the base.
- They still don't lift or move the unit, it just sits at a convenient angle where they can keep any suspicious cabling to other hardware obscured...
So like expected, it shows pretty much nothing new.
What's interesting is that it shows he was looking for help with a Kickstarter.. in late March. Right before he went on other forums saying he wouldn't need to use KS because he already had investors. Looks like he planned to do KS all along (big surprise given that video, right?) and any excuses about having fallouts with investors or investors suddenly demanding that he get $100k in KS sales first is a deception. Once again suggesting that there were never were any investors.
- Different colored material now. Change in 3D printer?
- They printed button caps now instead of using the ones from their ripped apart ipega. Or maybe they painted existing ones. The detail is pretty fine since you can see name engravings on the face buttons.
- There are ripped analog sticks shoved in the holes so you can't look down and see the case is empty now. But they don't use them even once so I doubt they actually work.
- They poked an LED through the case that blinks when the thing powers up and could be pretty much anything. Bluetooth pairing LED for controller?
- They've given up trying to pass any illusion of having a slider or hinge, now it's clearly visible they glued the screen part to the base part with little stands. Of course, with those sticks it'd never close anyway.
- You can no longer see controller PCBs coming out the sides, I guess they shoved it in the base.
- They still don't lift or move the unit, it just sits at a convenient angle where they can keep any suspicious cabling to other hardware obscured...
So like expected, it shows pretty much nothing new.
What's interesting is that it shows he was looking for help with a Kickstarter.. in late March. Right before he went on other forums saying he wouldn't need to use KS because he already had investors. Looks like he planned to do KS all along (big surprise given that video, right?) and any excuses about having fallouts with investors or investors suddenly demanding that he get $100k in KS sales first is a deception. Once again suggesting that there were never were any investors.
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well this is one of the more elaborate scampaigns i've ever seen! to truly complete the show, i'd definitely like to see them pick the prototype up, get full 4*pi steradians view, and close the hinge, see the PCB, etc... oh and yeah, get real names for the companies that are going to invest 
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@Yoyobuae good catch on the controller LED. Looks like I guessed correctly.
I guess I should have added that they changed the layout of the screen housing to actually sit on top of the screen instead of around it. Not a very big change though. Screen is probably taped/glued to this piece...
Whoever tries to close this thing is going to be very unhappy with the result.
I suppose it's possible that there's a mainboard PCB in the bottom part now, although very doubtful. But there's no way that the LCD connects to anything directly in the bottom case. There has to be cabling coming out the back, there's just no other way to make this work, you can't feed anything through the little stands they glued the thing to.
I bet the top part doesn't have a back covering and the bottom part doesn't have a bottom covering. Bottom part may also have hollowed out back where they can feed things through, although since it probably just houses a wireless controller PCB with a battery attached there likely isn't anything that actually needs to be passed through. The real tablet PCB is who knows where.
I guess I should have added that they changed the layout of the screen housing to actually sit on top of the screen instead of around it. Not a very big change though. Screen is probably taped/glued to this piece...
well this is one of the more elaborate scampaigns i've ever seen! to truly complete the show, i'd definitely like to see them pick the prototype up, get full 4*pi steradians view, and close the hinge, see the PCB, etc... oh and yeah, get real names for the companies that are going to invest
Whoever tries to close this thing is going to be very unhappy with the result.
I suppose it's possible that there's a mainboard PCB in the bottom part now, although very doubtful. But there's no way that the LCD connects to anything directly in the bottom case. There has to be cabling coming out the back, there's just no other way to make this work, you can't feed anything through the little stands they glued the thing to.
I bet the top part doesn't have a back covering and the bottom part doesn't have a bottom covering. Bottom part may also have hollowed out back where they can feed things through, although since it probably just houses a wireless controller PCB with a battery attached there likely isn't anything that actually needs to be passed through. The real tablet PCB is who knows where.
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sounds like a good use of time.
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And a clarification was posted, helpful as always..
You have to ask yourself, why would they make the 3D printed version larger than the specifications called for when they're only using it to house cannibalized pieces of controllers? If anything I'd expect it to be smaller.
Okay, I didn't see this, there's another video now:
This time the unit is actually being lifted. And the sticks actually work, not that that really means anything since they're probably part of the same original controller assembly that the other controls are.
Maybe they really did manage to put the tablet PCB inside the base?
You have to ask yourself, why would they make the 3D printed version larger than the specifications called for when they're only using it to house cannibalized pieces of controllers? If anything I'd expect it to be smaller.
Okay, I didn't see this, there's another video now:
This time the unit is actually being lifted. And the sticks actually work, not that that really means anything since they're probably part of the same original controller assembly that the other controls are.
Maybe they really did manage to put the tablet PCB inside the base?
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no, you still can't see under it. (and if you're not showing something, there's a reason.) so there's something going on there. it also is held pretty awkwardly, so it's gotta be tethered to something.
Wrath Of Khan
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Yeah, probably a tablet- they admitted that they do not have a prototype pcb yet.
I think some people might look with derision the next time they see a kickstarter for a handheld gaming system- tainted by association.
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Sellotape!
At this point, it has been lied so much that he would have to show a video of how he (or his supposed "engineers" *giggle*) are actually working on the electronics to remedy at least part of the mess, instead it's still all focused on "look, we got cool stuff".
You can see the ad-mentality all over the place, it's smoke and mirrors all the way and this is most likely how Nadir has learned to think in his actual job (which is making ads, see the video with his past work).
The best case scenario would be that he still thinks people want to get lied to and he knows some engineer that actually exists and is able to do some more than just connecting existing stuff, I wouldn't even bet on that though.
I got the feeling, that many dozens of people in this community here have way more knowledge about all this than he and his whole (fictional) company and the promise of a custom pcb after the crowdfunding is telling.
Just give ED the 320k and he could make a Win10 compatible module for the Pyra, maybe even lower the price a bit when there were enough backers.
You can see the ad-mentality all over the place, it's smoke and mirrors all the way and this is most likely how Nadir has learned to think in his actual job (which is making ads, see the video with his past work).
The best case scenario would be that he still thinks people want to get lied to and he knows some engineer that actually exists and is able to do some more than just connecting existing stuff, I wouldn't even bet on that though.
I got the feeling, that many dozens of people in this community here have way more knowledge about all this than he and his whole (fictional) company and the promise of a custom pcb after the crowdfunding is telling.
Just give ED the 320k and he could make a Win10 compatible module for the Pyra, maybe even lower the price a bit when there were enough backers.
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Look closely at the space between the top and bottom parts, there's light leak from behind the top case part. The back is not closed off. It's also possible that the bottom part is also not fully closed.
That allows plenty of freedom to put the ipega controller "inside" the bottom part and whatever LCD/PCB (or even a complete tablet without case) "inside" the top part, nevermind some bits slightly poking out of the intended device dimensions.
TheOldOne
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Video wont play properly for me for some reason. I take it the bottom left corner is hidden for a reason.
first I thought this was some bad greenscreen trickery as the bottom part of the case seems to be black, and I mistook it for a shadow. but then I noticed the guys right hand and also that he seems to be balancing it on his thigh. something is very fishy about this though. analog sticks apparently have a lot of input lag as well.
EDIT: Actually, does anybody here own an IPEGA and can confirm that the sticks work comparably shitty at all? If they are still using someone elses hardware in there, the performance of the controllers should be better, shouldn't it?
EDIT: Actually, does anybody here own an IPEGA and can confirm that the sticks work comparably shitty at all? If they are still using someone elses hardware in there, the performance of the controllers should be better, shouldn't it?
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