News from the meeting at GC

[PowerGod]

I felt really old when I mentioned Duke Nukem 3D and someone replied he wasn't born when it came out (he was 20), that games release didn't feel to long ago to me...

That game is so old that took forever for a sequel

 

[rygD]

Which is a shame as most children seem to be attached to their hearts.

Seems an easy enough thing to overcome.

 

[FBnil]

most of us have a child-like heart for the pyra

How is it able to pump enough blood for an adult to survive?

 

[rygD]

How is it able to pump enough blood for an adult to survive?

I figured others had them as a part of their collection, like me, not inside their bodies. What freak would would replace a perfectly functional heart with a tiny one? (It is understandable for those that needed a new ticker.)

 

[atari_afternoon]

I have just crossed the 40, but I think i hav never played as much as I have the past 10 years

 

[133794m3r]

So then the system's cpu will have a max clock of 1.5Ghz? There's zero chance of it going to the 1.7Ghz that the soc is capable of?

 

[levi]

Not necessarily, though how fast it will go tends to depend on what you're doing with it IMO. My Pandora will stably clock at 1.2GHz, but will give me graphical glitches in DraStic unless I clock to about 1.1GHz - I assume it's NEON glitches at 1.2GHz.

I suspect the Pyra will behave simililarly - it'll definitely clock higher than 1500MHz, because ED/hns/TI can't make parts that will work reliably at that speed and no faster. But how fast these initial builds will go at different tasks remains to be found. And it may be for certain things you do need to downclock for it to work well, perhaps. We'll have to see.

 

[AndiTheBest]

So then the system's cpu will have a max clock of 1.5Ghz? There's zero chance of it going to the 1.7Ghz that the soc is capable of?

It's possible that some boards will run at 1.7GHz and some will not. Hopefully all boards will run stable at 1.5GHz.

 

[PowerGod]

How is it able to pump enough blood for an adult to survive?

Facehug him for help !!

 

[netcat]

 

[WizardStan]

There's zero chance of it going to the 1.7Ghz that the soc is capable of?

The OMAP5432 has always only been rated for up to 1.5Ghz. Anything beyond that is and will always be bonus and should not be a consideration.

 

[mecksg1]

What is that and we're did you get it

 

[Pocak]

The 1.7 number comes from around 2014 when TI was still hopeful about the OMAP line. They were going to sell a normal 1.5Ghz SKU and a 1.7Ghz "speedbin" one. Of course, OMAP5432 was promoted as "up to 1.7Ghz". This is similar to how the OMAP3 was marketed as 720Mhz, but the 720Mhz version was expensive and the normal OMAP3 was only rated for 600Mhz.

Then, as customers didn't show up, the OMAP5430 was canned and with it any hope of having enough volume to do binning (my conjecture). So the OMAP5432 speedbin SKU was never released and the product pages got quietly changed to 1.5Ghz.

 

[Grench]

But these go up to 11.

Don't get hung up on the processor frequency. It is arguably less relevant than the rest of the components.

 

[netcat]

What is that and we're did you get it

this is my zaurus
i hope to retire it when i receive the pyra
it is a good example of how cpu clock speed is not entirely important
400mhz and snes9x at almost full speed, negligibly less
indeed i got through zelda3 and chrono trigger iirc
f-zero is totally playable [and the music sounds killer]
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But these go up to 11.

Don't get hung up on the processor frequency. It is arguably less relevant than the rest of the components.

agree.
also, what i try to do
is use my various devices for what they are good for
desktop pc for almost everything
no laptop because there's too much overlap with desktop, but crappy keyboard = frustration
phone for phoning
pyra for scripty things, not c++ or hadoop

 

[Hiko]

I haven'r pre-ordered yet, but I am pretty sure I will get one of this!

 

[mclien]

I will be 40 by the end of this year.
That's horrible.

Nope in only 2 Years you'll know all the answers (from someone being 32 in base 16 already).
BTW: people being as aktive and creative as you(we) will stay younger anyway (in mind and otherwise)

 

[PowerGod]

He ordered even a pizza

 

[Bokkertoff]

Yesterday my phone (it's maybe a year old now) starting feeling really long in the tooth so I started researching upgrades.

At the end of about 2 hours my options dwindled and it dawned on me that basically no matter what I chose it would be expensive and run a limited OS I really didn't care for. Very few options for expansion and mostly locked down OS that is out of my control.

So no, I don't really CARE that the Pyra processor is old when the only reason I'd want a newer SOC would be for games I don't play, or a small almost imperceptible bump in performance that means nothing for the bulk of my interactions with the device. I'm tired of the smartphone/android/iOS/blahblahblah treadmill. My Pandora still has more functionality than a top of the line smartphone in most cases; the suite of emulators my Pandy uses enjoy better performance and utility than most android ones I try. I can code python on the go with it. SSH into my office machines and fix things, manage external drives with the USB port. No adapters or dongles required. Thats hard to beat with any modern smartphone.

I want a device with a real keyboard, a real OS, and a real set of expansion and IO. I can handle having an older SOC if it means I can actually do things with it. Code, compile, fool around, use peripherals etc. Whatever I choose. It's worth a premium to me, its worth not having the most up to date silicon. I can deal with that.

I got my Nokia N900 in 2010. It was a fantastic device for me, but it was hampered with too little RAM for the bloat they bestowed upon it. (256MB)
I would have been very happy if I could replace it with another phone like that, but which had more RAM and a more linux friendly keyboard.
Sadly nobody ever made something like that again. It's successor (Nokia N9) was a big disappointment. That is a good example of a device that had more RAM and faster processor, but less functionality.
It took me six years to come to the realization that the "phone" I was looking for will never exist.

I had the eureka moment when I realized that phones and hand held computers always were separate things. There was a brief moment in time where a phone and a hand held computer came together in the same device and that was the Nokia N900.
Phones went on to evolve into something that appeals to the masses ( phone/PDA functionality ).

I made my peace with the idea that it will never be one device again.
The next day I ordered a run of the mill Android phone which I only use as a phone with crap battery life.
I also pre-ordered a Pyra the next day for which I wait in great anticipation and visit the forum on a daily basis in the hope of some more news.

BTW I know about the Neo900, but decided a Pyra will be a better fit.

 

[levi]

The Nokia E7 was the natural migration path from a N900 surely? That ran Symbian Belle though, opposed to Maemo (or whatever that got renamed into in the end), so was less hackable, but at least it had a physical keyboard unlike the N9.