And suddenly it works.


Screw the mortals.

Although it is too early to really consider this, would anyone that speaks/types in a language other than English prefer a different layout, such as German or French?

All I need is the ability to get my äöüß somewhere with a modificator.
 
Screw the mortals.

Although it is too early to really consider this, would anyone that speaks/types in a language other than English prefer a different layout, such as German or French?
I would love to have a French layout but I can live without it because ED included all the French letters inside his layout.
 
Don't mix up what's technically possible with marketing. I know of people using flashcarts to run SNES games on their original (fat) DSes. Granted, you had to disable a layer or two in certain scenes on Super Metroid to maintain framerate, but the 2011 3DS is a generation faster than that hardware.
Which flashcard ? Some come with an additional embedded CPU to help with SNES emulation for example.
What console/PDA/phone with a 266MHz ARM11 could emulate all SNES games perfectly ? PocketSNES did emulate somehow with glitches and frameskip on older/slower ARM processors, not really something Nintendo can charge people real money for...
 
I would love to have a French layout but I can live without it because ED included all the French letters inside his layout.

It's a keymat. Cut out the letters if you want.
I will definitely swap the "Z" and the "Y". Worked nicely on the Pandora.
 
Screw the mortals.

Although it is too early to really consider this, would anyone that speaks/types in a language other than English prefer a different layout, such as German or French?

The current keyboard layout is suitable for English, German and French use. As to having a dedicated German or French layout that look 'just like' French and German keyboards - not going to happen without another 4 physical keys.

Really - what we have now will work pretty darn well for all 3 of those languages.
 
The current keyboard layout is suitable for English, German and French use. As to having a dedicated German or French layout that look 'just like' French and German keyboards - not going to happen without another 4 physical keys.

Really - what we have now will work pretty darn well for all 3 of those languages.
I know that, and that is part of why I am pretty happy with the current layout. We tried to get something that worked for a lot of people doing a lot of different things. I know some people were still not content before the vote, so I wanted to see if there was still interest in additional layouts since we have been talking about crowdfunding.
Perhaps the CPU board upgrade is more important to more people than language specific layouts. I still want to see what the OMAP5 can do, since I am pretty impressed with what we have for the CC Pandora (however there are some games I really want to play on my Pandora that require a1GHz one). I may not feel the need to get a new CPU board until I start to get left behind when it comes to software again.
 
I know that, and that is part of why I am pretty happy with the current layout. We tried to get something that worked for a lot of people doing a lot of different things. I know some people were still not content before the vote, so I wanted to see if there was still interest in additional layouts since we have been talking about crowdfunding.
Perhaps the CPU board upgrade is more important to more people than language specific layouts. I still want to see what the OMAP5 can do, since I am pretty impressed with what we have for the CC Pandora (however there are some games I really want to play on my Pandora that require a1GHz one). I may not feel the need to get a new CPU board until I start to get left behind when it comes to software again.
If Neverwinter Night works at full-speed with Exagear and 3D drivers, I'll really enjoy the Pyra with the OMAP 5.
 
What do you mean with software layout?
.pndxmodmap let's you swap the characters.
I mean, even if you switch the keyboard buttons, you will need the input software to let the Pyra recognises the swapped characters with the FN function.

For example, if you put the A instead the Q on the keyboard layout, and the Pyra still writes Q when you push A, there is no point to do it.
 
I mean, even if you switch the keyboard buttons, you will need the input software to let the Pyra recognises the swapped characters with the FN function.

For example, if you put the A instead the Q on the keyboard layout, and the Pyra still writes Q when you push A, there is no point to do it.

That's exactly what that .pndxmodmap handles... everything can be modified. The Pyra may use a different method of handling it, but something similar will be in place no doubt... if not it's open-source you can change anything you want.
 
That's exactly what that .pndxmodmap handles... everything can be modified.
Oh, I see. I didn't know it, as I don't own a Pandora.

It's good to know it. Maybe ED would be willing to change the layout order and edit this file to make it works in the chosen language before shipping the Pyra, even for the ABXY gamepad layout order.

I'm not talking about creating a new layout, just as you said, cutting and changing the order.
 
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*ahem*

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If that was about me not paying attention, good call, I edited my post.

If it was about something else, I don't know what it was, but we need to have fun and make things how we like them. Just be careful if you are around things I have modified so you don't cut yourself.


Now, back to the keyboard stuff.
 
^You got it.

Having fun is what it's aaaaall about.
Also, I like upgrading things... and achieving what is supposed to be impossible, especially when it comes as a surprise.

But I am extremely patient... some modifications are a real pain to implement, if you are unprepared for the task.
 
So, since this is now devolving into yet another keyboard thread, albeit an after-the-fact one, there is one thing that I've been wondering about for quite some time, especially considering the sometimes fierce debate on the whole best possible One True keyboard layout question:

How hard would it actually be for an interested party to make their own keymat, with all the keys in the places they want? What would that entail? Is there a way people could make their own custom keymats using, say, a 3D printer? Or some other machine or set of tools that's within the reach of the common person?

The keymat needs to be flexible and AFAIK it's made of rubber. I think that makes it unsuitable for 3D printing, but I may be wrong on that count and I've seen on a number of occasions how some people in this forum have amazing insights into all sorts of different technical fields, including manufacturing.

If there was a way for people to make their own keymats, it might go some way to making those who have serious gripes with the finalized layout happier. And even if it's very technically involved, there might still be someone capable and interested in making custom keymats and perhaps selling them to interested Pyra owners. A small after market, independent of the official Pyra distribution channels and based on the - often pretty amazing - community of enthusiasts could grow this way.

EDIT: I apologise if this idea has been discussed before. I did not read all of the keyboard layout discussion threads, because... well, frankly, I have a job and a family... ;-)
 
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