"Snow" here isn't a name like a family name, but to designate the subject something of a lower standing. They just chose the word for something that's around a lot (maybe there's more to it, I don't see). I think in such a case it's a good idea to translate the "name".By the way:
in the German Version from "Game of Thrones", John Snow was translatet too "John Schnee", for me, John Schnee sounds more like a Disney Sidekick..
This also dissapoints me, as i want to read the Books in german, but every time he get mentioned, i read it as "John Snow"..
Schnee is the German Translation of "Snow", but who the hell translatet Names ??
"Snow" here isn't a name like a family name, but to designate the subject something of a lower standing. They just chose the word for something that's around a lot (maybe there's more to it, I don't see). I think in such a case it's a good idea to translate the "name".
I just realize "lower standing" is a bit too generic. He's a bastard. It's more in the lines of, he doesn't deserve his father's name/he's not to be recognized as being of his actual father, but rather to be of the snow, maybe or something.Ah ok, that was something i ditnt know, i tought its a familiy name like "Stark" or "Thyrell" or "Lennister"..
And therefore, i wants to read the books, to get the knowledge its need to speak about GOT..
@matzesu We just subtitle everything. That way you retain the voice and performance of the original actors, you can follow the content and you pick up some extra language skills.
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Having not read the books, as I understand it from the TV series it is one of the names used for bastards (in the North, but south of the wall, such as around Winterfell). I think the commonness is a part of the point. Since it is the nobility that would be most concerned with such things it almost seems to have the opposite effect of what seems intended (unimportant person has the bastard name, so obviously important to someone)."Snow" here isn't a name like a family name, but to designate the subject something of a lower standing. They just chose the word for something that's around a lot (maybe there's more to it, I don't see). I think in such a case it's a good idea to translate the "name".
Wasn't it the blacksmith kid that is, from some views, the most recent rightful heir to the throne (because Cersei's children don't count, for obvious reasons). He was somebody's bastard, and I think it was King's Landing. I don't really remember either.And IIRC, there was another bastard from another - less snowy - region. That one wasn't called snow, which seems to be the standard in the north, but something else, which in turn seems to be the standard in that other region. Forgot, who it was or what that other name was, though.
However, this system does not apply to the bastards of smallfolk. At least one parent (usually, but not always, the father) has to be a member of a noble House. If both the father and mother are commoners, the child cannot use the special surname.
The low-born commoners of Westeros do not actually use surnames at all. Therefore, possessing a bastard surname is simultaneously a mark of distinction and badge of shame. Anyone who encounters someone with a bastard surname will immediately know that they are not simply a bastard, but the bastard child of a noble.
Bastards only use the special surnames if they have been openly acknowledged by their noble-born parent. In such cases, their noble parent will usually try to make sure that they are well cared for, or send money for their support, but it is extremely unusual for a noble to raise their bastard child in their own household.
Spanish does this. "Cristobal Colón" for Cristoforo Colombo (you might know him as Columbus. the latinized version).I hate translating names too, especially in languages where the spelling is adapted to native pronunciation (some conlangs do this).
Ever seen a movie or tv-show in English, where they have some scholar reading/speaking Latin. Often times they pronounce the written word as if it were English with its deranged/shifted vowels. That's ear wrekking. I can understand it, when the portraited character is a highscholl student, who doesn't know better, but one meant to know Latin by profession... nope.Spanish does this. "Cristobal Colón" for Cristoforo Colombo (you might know him as Columbus. the latinized version).
The Netherlands does this "Orange" (pronounce like a French, ouh-rahn-sh) became "Oranje" (pronounce like a Dutch, ouh-ran-djeh). Before that word, the Dutch used geel-rood (yellow-red). And exports "apartheid".
In Peru, the Chinese restaurants are called "shifas" (she-fahs), from Chinese, "fried rice", chǎofàn).
From Nahuatl, you have Chocolatl (chocolate), Chili (chili) and ahuacatl (avocado) amongst others.
But what I absolutely hate from Spanish is the fact that Soya is not translated to Soja, and thus pronounced in a horrible way (scraping your throat), instead of how it should be pronounced (like boo-ya).
It seems the vowel shifts in English over the time are very well understood and English trailed off some in that regard. It probably would have been better advise had he said, pronounce the vowels anyhow but the way you know from English ;PWhen I did latin at school, my teacher told me that nobody knew how it sounded so you may as well say it as english vowels and that. I don't think that was strictly true even back then fwiw.
If, as a northerner you'd say 'pub', say 'pab' and you sound like a southerner saying the same word, and 'pib' to sound like a royal.
Yeah, I can relate. As for the Spanish pronunciation, closer but still not accentless as the sing-song-ness of Latin is different (closer to Italian) and some vowel pronunciations are just "unique". Also Hispanofonics try to add the Spanish stress and forget to pronounce the H (which is mute in Spanish in most cases), while the Latin rules are different. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_spelling_and_pronunciation.That's ear wrekking.