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[JDTAY]

How God Killed 3 Million People In The Bible

Almost three million kills can be traced back to the Holy Father

www.vocativ.com

Believe, Sandi's even more down on Christianity then you are. When she says God, she's talking about the real one.

She actually, after escaping her original abusive foster parents, went to some Mormon foster parents who got her deep into Mormonism. The she had another NDE, where she was told by her spirit guide that she was never meant to get into Christianity, and that Christianity on Earth was being phased out in favor of a purer form of spirituality.

 

[Null]

Believe, Sandi's even more down on Christianity then you are.

It's more that I'm ambivalent about it, same with any of the other religions. I decided that religion wasn't something that appealed to me back when I was a kid.

When she says God, she's talking about the real one.

Yes I've met them.

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[JDTAY]

Shit, two grammatical errors in my first sentence and you quoted them. I'm pretty sure they weren't there before, I was checking carefully. The people with access to my account might've edited them in.

 

[JDTAY]

Thought I should post something positive today.

It's snowing here, and it's quite beautiful.

 

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

I assume the biblical position must agree with the chrtistian or jewish position, and I thought the christian position taught us about heaven and hell. Sure your body decomposes and is returned by bacteria and fungi to the earth, but your soul is meant to go on. It's not at all clear whether your soul can learn anything new, or have any kind of corporeal fun times, or experience real beauty, the things I enjoy myself, but it at least promises your consciousness won't disappear.

The Bible does teach about Heaven as being the place where God and his angels reside but humans normally do not go there according to the Bible. There are many texts which show this —e.g. the texts I just showed earlier— but a popular one for this is Acts 2:34 which state that David did not go to heaven. David was like one of God's favourite people ever so the fact that he did not go to heaven is very telling.

Hell is a fabrication based on the Gehenna of old Jerusalem. That was a permanent fire where the Israelites burned their trash. Jesus used it as an example to denote everlasting destruction (because that's what would happen if you were to be thrown in Gehenna—you'd die and your body would burn beyond recognition) but apparently some religions decided that everlasting torture works better to keep people in Church.

Anyway Ecclesiastes 9:4-6 is pretty clear about it: there is no afterlife. Just read the context if you think that I'm quoting out of context.

 

[Null]

The people with access to my account might've edited them in.

 

[pyrat]

The Bible does teach about Heaven as being the place where God and his angels reside but humans normally do not go there according to the Bible. There are many texts which show this —e.g. the texts I just showed earlier— but a popular one for this is Acts 2:34 which state that David did not go to heaven. David was like one of God's favourite people ever so the fact that he did not go to heaven is very telling.

I think Christianism is the religion I know better, but that's still very very little. So I'm really not asking with any hidden intention:
Did heaven decide not to admit David, or did David politely (or otherwise) decline to go there ? It doesn't sound like there was overbooking in heaven, road jams, closed airspace or something.

Anyway Ecclesiastes 9:4-6 is pretty clear about it: there is no afterlife. Just read the context if you think that I'm quoting out of context (and care enough about knowing what the Bible really says).

I don't care enough, and it's partially your fault. You seem more interesting than Ecclesiastes.

 

[Null]

Yes I've met them.

I started thinking about if Peony were a God, then I quickly stopped because I didn't want to give her any ideas. She manages to cause enough trouble as it is at her current power level, if she had God level power then no sweet shop or biscuit factory would be safe.

 

[levi]

The Bible does teach about Heaven as being the place where God and his angels reside but humans normally do not go there according to the Bible. There are many texts which show this —e.g. the texts I just showed earlier— but a popular one for this is Acts 2:34 which state that David did not go to heaven. David was like one of God's favourite people ever so the fact that he did not go to heaven is very telling.

Hell is a fabrication based on the Gehenna of old Jerusalem. That was a permanent fire where the Israelites burned their trash. Jesus used it as an example to denote everlasting destruction (because that's what would happen if you were to be thrown in Gehenna—you'd die and your body would burn beyond recognition) but apparently some religions decided that everlasting torture works better to keep people in Church.

Interesting. I thought the story of satan's downfall and the creation of hell was in the bible, but I've only ever read the new testament and that was when I was a lot younger. I know it's in Paradise Lost which I read recently, but that's only about 350 years old, which is at least a century after even the most pessimistic estimate of the writing of the new testament.

 

[Djoga'Ro]

I'm a bit mystified by this suicide subreddit stuff. If the suiciders were successful, how are they posting on reddit, even if they're in a separate timeline? Reddit's only been around 15 years, so if they woke up in our continuity but in the 1920s or something they wouldn't be around to post on it. If they woke up in a completely different continuity, why would the internet servers that run reddit even be compatible with the ones in our continuity, and connected?

Maybe they didn't depart here, but arrived here. ?

(To me the term timeline implies parallel alternatives more than different epoches. I.e. that's, what I'd thinks first of.)

 

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

Did heaven decide not to admit David, or did David politely (or otherwise) decline to go there ? It doesn't sound like there was overbooking in heaven, road jams, closed airspace or something.

I could support this all with texts, but to give a quick rundown:

Heaven is where God's angels are supposed so to live. Those angels were created as angels and have never been human except for a few special exceptions (most notably Jesus, who was created as angel, reincarnated as human, and then finally resurrected as angel). Humans normally do not go to heaven at all. It's normally just not an option for them no matter how good they are.

Earth was meant to be a paradise for immortal humans to live their entire lives on. After Adam and Eve sinned they became mortal and so would any descendant that they had from that point on. According to the Bible the paradise will be restored on Earth and then Earth will be populated by immortal humans. The highest reward that most humans can get is to be resurrected for everlasting life as immortal human on the paradise Earth.

As for Hell, it's non-Biblical. It's based on the second death that the Bible talks about. The 2 different kinds of death are:
- The first one is often referred to as a sleep or as the first death. People who are in this state do not exist right now but God is planning to resurrect them to give them a chance to earn a place in his Earthly paradise as immortal humans. Jesus also resurrected people from this death.
- The second kind of death is often referred to as burning forever or as the second death. It's compared with the Gehenna of Israel (which, like I said, was a real place on Earth where there was a permanent fire) and the people said to be in this state do not exist and will never be recreated. Gehenna is a fitting comparison because anything thrown in there would be thoroughly destroyed so that it could never be retrieved.


So David did not go to heaven because he gets the default reward for humans which is to be recreated on paradise Earth.

Interesting. I thought the story of satan's downfall and the creation of hell was in the bible

Satan's downfall is described in the Bible. His downfall is the part where he uses a snake to talk to Eve and then gets rejected by God for his sin. It's very early in Genesis. But after his downfall he was still free to go to Heaven and Earth as he pleased, as is evidenced by the fact that he does so multiple times in the bible and by the fact that Revelation says that eventually he would be banned from Heaven and thus stuck on Earth.

 

[pyrat]

I could support this all with texts, but to give a quick rundown:

They'd likely be harder to understand than your summary. You seem good at summarizing.

Heaven is where God's angels are supposed so to live. Those angels were created as angels and have never been human except for a few special exceptions (most notably Jesus, who was created as angel, reincarnated as human, and then finally resurrected as angel). Humans normally do not go to heaven at all. It's normally just not an option for them no matter how good they are.

Earth was meant to be a paradise for immortal humans to live their entire lives on. After Adam and Eve sinned they became mortal and so would any descendant that they had from that point on. According to the Bible the paradise will be restored on Earth and then Earth will be populated by immortal humans. The highest reward that most humans can get is to be resurrected for everlasting life as immortal human on the paradise Earth.

Ah. Then I think I had some mixup between heaven and paradise. Thanks.

As for Hell, it's non-Biblical. It's based on the second death that the Bible talks about. The 2 different kinds of death are:
- The first one is often referred to as a sleep or as the first death. People who are in this state do not exist right now but God is planning to resurrect them to give them a chance to earn a place in his Earthly paradise as immortal humans. Jesus also resurrected people from this death.
- The second kind of death is often referred to as burning forever or as the second death. It's compared with the Gehenna of Israel (which, like I said, was a real place on Earth where there was a permanent fire) and the people said to be in this state do not exist and will never be recreated. Gehenna is a fitting comparison because anything thrown in there would be thoroughly destroyed so that it could never be retrieved.

Sounds like afterlife is a backup policy of sorts. Some files are going to be deleted instead (in English file is an anagram of life, btw).

So David did not go to heaven because he gets the default reward for humans which is to be recreated on paradise Earth.

Ok, David didn't go to kernel space, but to tape. That looks lucky of him.

Satan's downfall is described in the Bible. His downfall is the part where he uses a snake to talk to Eve and then gets rejected by God for his sin. It's very early in Genesis. But after his downfall he was still free to go to Heaven and Earth as he pleased, as is evidenced by the fact that he does so multiple times in the bible and by the fact that Revelation says that eventually he would be banned from Heaven and thus stuck on Earth.

I read Milton too (some time ago) and got the impression Satan was some kind of rebel. Not intrinsically evil, still possibly so, but mostly against policy, misfit, antisystem or so.
Thank you.

 

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

I read Milton too (some time ago) and got the impression Satan was some kind of rebel. Not intrinsically evil, still possibly so, but mostly against policy, misfit, antisystem or so.

I think that's pretty accurate. In fact, the title "Satan" roughly translates to rebel. It's a title that he got from God after he rebelled. "Devil" is similarly just a title that he got later on and means "slanderer". Satan's original name is not mentioned in the Bible AFAIK.

 

[Null]

'Hatsune Miku Airport' Being Considered As Possible New Name For Sapporo City's Airport

"Hatsune Miku Airport" has a shot at becoming the new name of Sapporo City's local airport.

www.mikufan.com

 

[matzesu]

This evening i made a test run whit our maybe 30 years old Familie Camera Tripod, for my Unboxing next week: works quite good, i can bring my Phone quite hight so i could work whitout the need to look through the Screen,
Although the 3 Tripod Legs need a lot space between ,my Desk and the Couch where my Office is

 

[Null]

House: Amazon, Facebook, Apple, Google have “monopoly power,” should be split

Blockbuster report calls for beefing up enforcement and aiming for breakups.

arstechnica.com

 

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

The Pyra makes us depend on none of those corporations. I dislike all of them anyway. Apple polices the user too much, Google is basically spyware incarnate, Amazon puts DRM in their e-books, and Facebook is too lazy to even spy on us and expects us to hand our information over to them ourselves. Also, Google's Chromium logo is "666" with the bottom part of the "6"'s overlapping. It's also a camera lens with shutter. I think both are fitting. For the case that you're not convinced: Here is a video from Google headquarters where they explain why they dropped their "Don't Be Evil" motto.

 

[levi]

I don't buy any ebooks. I've paid for some PDFs in the past, but I don't do that at all regularly, and in fact I don't own an e-reader so anything else doesn't make much sense to me. I've found other suppliers for books and electronics and PC stuff, but when I need something else I don't really have an alternative. I think the last think I bought from Amazon was a set of shoe-worn spikes for last winter along with a cheap album to make it up to the free delivery bracket.

 

[Null]

Also, Google's Chromium logo is "666" with the bottom part of the "6"'s overlapping.

Revelation! 666 is not the number of the beast (it's a devilish 616)

A newly discovered fragment of the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament indicates that, as far as the Antichrist goes, theologians, scholars, heavy metal groups, and television evangelists have got the wrong number. Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616.

www.independent.co.uk

The Devil’s Number Is Not 666

"Hell is more bearable than nothingness." —Philip James Bailey In A Nutshell "666," the oft-quoted number of Satan, or perhaps

knowledgenuts.com

 

[λ the β-Redex Reducer]

That's an interesting theory. But although the article (the first one, the second apparently just parrots the first one) talks about it as if it's a proven fact, it's actually just a theory peddled by a single guy so I would not change your Bibles yet without looking a bit more into it. I think that this is where he talks about it but sci-hub.se won't give it to me right now and I'm going to bed right now anyway.

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I don't buy any ebooks. I've paid for some PDFs in the past, but I don't do that at all regularly,

I like Humble Bundle a lot. They're DRM-free.